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Old 11-19-2017, 09:33 PM
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I was at the MCACN , Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals , yesterday in Chicago. Could not help but noticed that there were about 12 1967 Corvettes being judged. Strange all were number matching L71, 435 horse cars. Found it strange there were no , at least that I saw, 390,400, or small block cars. Guess they were the only ones that survived.
Very nice show though.
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That show attracts the best of the best and you have to get your car approved to be in it. The people who put that show on want real rare cars.
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The C6 Corvettes I saw there must have been really rare.
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Matching numbers does not mean original. That being said with restoration costs being what they are, it's just not possible to restore a small block to those standards and not be buried in the car unless you can do the work yourself. It's even getting to that point with the L71 cars. I spoke to a couple of owners at the show and was told that their resto costs exceeded 200K.
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Is that 200k figure paying a shop 100+ bucks a hour to do everything and does that include the price of the car
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Is that 200k figure paying a shop 100+ bucks a hour to do everything and does that include the price of the car
No, just the restoration. I personally think that is an insane number to pay for a frame off but I'm frugal
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No, just the restoration. I personally think that is an insane number to pay for a frame off but I'm frugal
Dad and I did his black 390 air coupe for half that. That includes the price of the car. Check book resto is what this hobby is going to
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Originally Posted by JD ZR1
I was at the MCACN , Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals , yesterday in Chicago. Could not help but noticed that there were about 12 1967 Corvettes being judged. Strange all were number matching L71, 435 horse cars. Found it strange there were no , at least that I saw, 390,400, or small block cars. Guess they were the only ones that survived.
Very nice show though.
I've never seen a 67 small block. Extremely rare!!
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I wonder how many were built in St. Louis vs. Houston.........
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I wonder how many were built in St. Louis vs. Houston.........
Don’t forget that little shop in Ohio
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My brother was there and said he saw my old 1968 Hemi Charger there
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Originally Posted by jprop
I've never seen a 67 small block. Extremely rare!!
I have one of the super rare Big Block Delete convertibles.

With original engine, trans, rear end, and several other
systems.
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Originally Posted by vetsvette2002
I have one of the super rare Big Block Delete convertibles.

With original engine, trans, rear end, and several other
systems.
"Big block delete"
I like that!
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Must be common in IL., got a BBD 66 myself.
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My Maroon 67 Coupe (390) got a Triple Diamond there a few years back and i must say, it is an AMAZING show. Was nice seeing Steve there too. The Corvettes need to have been Judged Bloomington AND a Top Flight before getting into the show, so a lot of cars with "issues" have been weeded out by time MCACN is in their sights. Also, most of the cars are known by some of the judges from prior judging events. L71's are the top of the food chain, so if an owner spends 200K for a restoration, why wouldn't he want a Triple Diamond on the car....ARA

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Originally Posted by 93RubyRedCoupe

L71's are the top of the food chain, so if an owner spends 200K for a restoration, why wouldn't he want a Triple Diamond on the car....ARA
Now ARA, your bias is showing, I find some others to be above those........
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Originally Posted by SBR
Matching numbers does not mean original. That being said with restoration costs being what they are, it's just not possible to restore a small block to those standards and not be buried in the car unless you can do the work yourself. It's even getting to that point with the L71 cars. I spoke to a couple of owners at the show and was told that their resto costs exceeded 200K.
Steve, either we talked to the same owners or that is now the shop rate for a show quality restoration.

There was a particularly beautiful 67 Impala convertible, red with a white top. I know next to nothing about Impalas (and have absolutely no interest in them), but the body and paint on his car was among the top 10 at the event. Said he had over $200K in it over the cost of the car.

I know for a fact that I could do a restoration myself for much less than half that figure, allowing for only the body/paint and engine machine work to be outsourced--all other work done by me. This assumes starting with a complete car. Even at that rate, the economics do not make sense unless it's a very special car when comparing to the cost of buying a car someone else has already restored.

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