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Old 12-14-2017, 09:50 AM
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Very nice car to start out with!
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tbarb View Post
A FWIW based on my experience. I applaud your efforts but I want to mention there are some things about your restoration that are better sent out to respected pros to be restored.

I am making reference to the dash cluster because the speedometer, speedometer cable worm gears/bushings and tach are all things that a experienced shop can address. Notice the buzzer tach wire hole, the color of the red line on the tach, the importance of the ground on the water temperature gauge etc etc...

The cluster is a PIA to remove once everything is restored so you want to be certain it's done by someone with the right experience. There is plenty of other work there for you to do. Also, consider replacing the dash wire harness with a new harness, there is nothing worse than trying to troubleshoot wire problems on 50 plus year old wires. Same for the engine and headlight harness.

Your 63 like mine is a early car with things that can be different than even later 63's so if you have any questions I will do my best to try and help.

Welcome to the world of 63's, remember don't discard anything these early parts are $$$ and hard to find.

The 60lb oil gauge would be correct for the November built car.
Thanks for the response.

I will definitely send out the gauges for any work that may need to be done to them.

As you have referenced, the last thing I want to do is pull out the dash once it's put back into place.

Also, I will be replacing the entire wiring system as I too, think new wiring would be in order during the restoration process.

Thanks for the information,

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Old 12-14-2017, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink View Post
I'll second the recommendation to farm out the cluster....Corvette Specialties of Maryland (West) is out your way and are excellent. You need special equipment to calibrate the speedometer anyway. I guess you know to pull out the brake pedal support at this point and closely examine the weld at the top of the clutch pedal and "rebush" the nylon spacers on the shafts, etc.. No better time to do it.

I'll also say the best $28 you'll spend on your car is the Doc Rebuild pictorial OOSOEZ wiring schematics. Buy them now and thank me later
Thanks Frankie.

I will be removing the entire clutch and brake assembly for restoration.

And thanks for the heads up on the Doc Rebuild wiring schematics. I had ordered these when I did the '62, and found them to be a tremendous help.

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Old 12-15-2017, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink View Post
I'll also say the best $28 you'll spend on your car is the Doc Rebuild pictorial OOSOEZ wiring schematics. Buy them now and thank me later
Although I haven't bought one I'd have to agree. Without one you will be asking lots of questions on the forum about wiring like I had to.

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Old 12-15-2017, 08:00 PM
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Yes, the OOSOEZ is very helpful. It's just to bad you have to buy it from a grumpy old fart.
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Originally Posted by MOXIE62 View Post
Yes, the OOSOEZ is very helpful. It's just to bad you have to buy it from a grumpy old fart.
I don't get it....me and the Doc get along just fine....
Maybe one grumpy old fart to another I guess...

If it weren't for some of the "characters" you meet in this hobby it'd be damn boring...
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink View Post
I don't get it....me and the Doc get along just fine....
Maybe one grumpy old fart to another I guess...

If it weren't for some of the "characters" you meet in this hobby it'd be damn boring...
He has been grumpy for years and years you caught him on a good day.
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you got something wrong with grumpy!!!!!

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Originally Posted by MOXIE62 View Post
Yes, the OOSOEZ is very helpful. It's just to bad you have to buy it from a grumpy old fart.
I guess that's why he gets banned so often. If you can understand a simple wiring diagram, I see no reason to buy one from Dr. Xxxx .

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Old 12-16-2017, 01:06 AM
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Getting ready for primer, then onto finding the correct color.

Was able to get the grill supports sandblasted, and subsequently, primed and painted them. They turned out great! Still have to do a little work on the grill itself, but I'll get it done.

Already took the bumpers, front license plate bar, and the four hockey stick (seat sides), in for chroming. Damn....that chit is never cheap!!

Also took in the rocker covers/moulding into the polisher. Fortunately, they are in great shape, just needs to be cleaned up.

Man.....I enjoy the hell out of doing this!

I will have to remember this statement when I'm laying on my back, working under the dash, with little room to move! LOL!




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...Pat, you already know the OOSOEZ schematics are great and don't have the mistakes that the original GM docs have.

You're doin' great Pat and yes, chrome work is $$$.

IIRC the rocker covers are hard-anodized - I hope your 'polisher guy' knows that... If he goes through that coating you'll be worse off..

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A lot of nice work being done------and a lot of good advice given.

For those who are doing their '63 clusters, are you staying with the plastic lenses or going with the later glass units?

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The two 63s I have done I stayed with the plastic after some polishing although the glass would be tempting.

Just another note...that greenish tint inside the cluster to amplify the dash bulb light is pretty lame and prob faded after years. The 63 cluster is dim at night already so re-shooting those areas with something a little more reflective is a consideration..
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Old 12-16-2017, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 426 Hemi View Post




A lot of nice work being done------and a lot of good advice given.

For those who are doing their '63 clusters, are you staying with the plastic lenses or going with the later glass units?
I went with glass 10 years ago and have never regreted it. They are easy to clean and don't scratch like plastic.
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Old 12-16-2017, 03:47 PM
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My '63 is pretty much original. So trying to be a good and faithful steward, I put in the plastic lenses. Originals lasted 54 years-so good enough for me.
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Old 12-16-2017, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 426 Hemi View Post




A lot of nice work being done------and a lot of good advice given.

For those who are doing their '63 clusters, are you staying with the plastic lenses or going with the later glass units?
Thanks Shannon!

My plastic speedometer and the plastic tachometer were not able to be saved. I have glass replacements on the way.

Pat

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I see you're restoring your dash. Looking good.

I have a complete dash restored by Roger at Corvette Instruments but it was done over 10 years ago. It's for a high hp car.

I ended up getting another frame, cut the bezels and went with Autometer Comp gauges since I wanted the gauges to be accurate and reliable.

Good luck on your build.

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Thanks Frankie,

That little divit you're referring to, looks to just be paint that has been chipped.

Curious though, what method did you use to strip the body?

Also, I removed the instrument panel today and will begin restoring the entire unit.

One question to you guys; Is the entire panel dipped in chrome, and then only the edges, and tops of the circumference on the gauges the only part(s) that are polished?

Clock is also stamped Nov of 1962, which again, should be correct for the late November build date of the car.

Any comments on the Smith written on the back of the clock? Maybe a name for a customer who may have had work done to it?

Thanks,

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What kind of work did you do for a living.
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I just saw the pic of your red C1 and my heart started racing. LOL Beautiful. I'll dig thru my 63 parts and see what I have left over. I resto-modded mine so a lot of parts weren't used.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:57 PM
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What kind of work did you do for a living.
I retired from a large Municipal Fire Department here in Northern California.

Also, I've maintained my Class B Contractor's License for over 30 years. I built every house I've ever owned (three that we lived in), as well as several others for people I worked with. Now, I'm my families in house contractor for all their home improvements! LOL!

Now enjoying working on and building the old classic cars.

I even painted my last project. It was my first time that I actually prepared and painted the entire car. I kept track and put over 500 hours into the prep and paint. I'm sure someone who knows what they're doing could have done it in half that time, and probably even less than that. But, I was still able to get the job done.



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