Borgeson Power Steeing Pully hits
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Borgeson Power Steeing Pully hits
1966- 327 Corvette no factory PS. I have the third crank shaft pulley and it line ups up the the outer groove on the PS Pump pulley. [But the outer groove on the PS Pump Pulley hits the frame.
IF I use the inside groove, it would have to run the A/C pump, and water pump along with the PS pump which seems like a lot of work for one l o n g belt....
Any ideas? Belts line up perfect Pump pulley hits frame and you could never put a belt on it without removing the pump...so far Borgeson has not provided an answer....
IF I use the inside groove, it would have to run the A/C pump, and water pump along with the PS pump which seems like a lot of work for one l o n g belt....
Any ideas? Belts line up perfect Pump pulley hits frame and you could never put a belt on it without removing the pump...so far Borgeson has not provided an answer....
Last edited by karkrafter; 12-18-2017 at 04:46 PM.
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I don't know what year you're working on, but mine had a single pulley on the p/s pump.
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Can you post a picture taken about this angle?
Last edited by 65GGvert; 12-18-2017 at 05:02 PM.
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I'm trying to figure this out on the fly fellas....
Borgeson supplied me with a two groove Pump Pulley, research tells me this is for a BB not a small block, they show a one groove pulley # 3770509...now mu question is if you uest the ONE groove pulley which of the three positions on the crankshaft pulley does it coincide with? I NEED to to go to the outermost groove [closest to radiator] The other two grooves are spoken for on the crankshaft....
Borgeson supplied me with a two groove Pump Pulley, research tells me this is for a BB not a small block, they show a one groove pulley # 3770509...now mu question is if you uest the ONE groove pulley which of the three positions on the crankshaft pulley does it coincide with? I NEED to to go to the outermost groove [closest to radiator] The other two grooves are spoken for on the crankshaft....
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karkrafter (12-19-2017)
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You wish is my command...
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300 HP
From the pic posted by 65GG
looks like single pulley might be the answer....
From the pic posted by 65GG
looks like single pulley might be the answer....
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I added Borgeson to my 72 350 with a/c and no p/s and the pump had a double pulley. I also added the third pulley groove to the crank pulley and the belts lined up like this. I don't know if it helps, but see what you think.
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My set up appears the same as yours, BUT the double pulley hits the frame....did you have a problem slipping the belt over the pulley? It's IMPOSSIBLE on mine without removing the pump...
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How old are your motor mounts? My PS single pulley is about 1/2 inch from the frame. Dennis
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Can you use a shorter belt and rotate the pump up with the adjustment slot?
Last edited by 65GGvert; 12-18-2017 at 07:09 PM.
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best as I can tell the single pulley is 5 1/2 Dia while the double is 6 1/8 dia. Guessing this is why you have clearance and I don't. No there is additional clearance no matter where the pump is, it goes from hitting at one extreme to less than 1/16 inch in the other, certainly no room to slip a belt in
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I just went thru this issue with the Borgeson "kit" for my 65 with 327/300. The supplied two groove pulley would not line up with the third groove on the added CS pulley. Try a single groove GM 3770509CE PS pump pulley.
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karkrafter (12-19-2017)
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SOLVED:
The cast iron pulley supplied by Borgeson hits the frame on sbc cars. Its a Paragon reproduction # 1353 clearly marked BIG BLOCK, Borgeson offered me another cast iron Paragon Pulley but that too is WRONG as BOTH the cast iron pullets are 6 1/8 in dia.
For my application I have found three pulleys that work fine,
GM #'s 3860457 AND 3770509, as recommended by another poster here.
Both are single groove stamped steel [not cast iron] and are importantly 5 1/2 inches in diameter.
The difference between these two GM pulleys are that the belt rides 1/2 in lower in the 3770509 [acting like a deep groove?] I imagine that pulley would be preferred for HP application. I found a used 3860457 which works fine for me. The 509 pulley is re-poped by everybody.
The third pulley that would work is a GM 3941107 DE, This is a double groove pulley for those who for whatever reason need to use the INSIDE groove or BOTH Grooves. It too is 5 1/2 dia and will give the proper clearance.
Thanks to you fellas for helping me on this and Hopefully this info may help the next guy....
The cast iron pulley supplied by Borgeson hits the frame on sbc cars. Its a Paragon reproduction # 1353 clearly marked BIG BLOCK, Borgeson offered me another cast iron Paragon Pulley but that too is WRONG as BOTH the cast iron pullets are 6 1/8 in dia.
For my application I have found three pulleys that work fine,
GM #'s 3860457 AND 3770509, as recommended by another poster here.
Both are single groove stamped steel [not cast iron] and are importantly 5 1/2 inches in diameter.
The difference between these two GM pulleys are that the belt rides 1/2 in lower in the 3770509 [acting like a deep groove?] I imagine that pulley would be preferred for HP application. I found a used 3860457 which works fine for me. The 509 pulley is re-poped by everybody.
The third pulley that would work is a GM 3941107 DE, This is a double groove pulley for those who for whatever reason need to use the INSIDE groove or BOTH Grooves. It too is 5 1/2 dia and will give the proper clearance.
Thanks to you fellas for helping me on this and Hopefully this info may help the next guy....
Last edited by karkrafter; 12-19-2017 at 11:07 AM.