Adding air to a 60
#1
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Adding air to a 60
Happy New Year to all.
I am planning on adding air conditioning to my 1960. I am sure there are modifications that need to be done. I have really no idea on what is involved. How does this effect my generator which drives my tach. I know there are products out there, does anyone have a preferred product. Once the car is back on the road my wife and I would like to travel and I don't need it to be uncomfortable. Not sure if this info is needed, single 4 barrel carb with a two speed power glide.
Katch
I am planning on adding air conditioning to my 1960. I am sure there are modifications that need to be done. I have really no idea on what is involved. How does this effect my generator which drives my tach. I know there are products out there, does anyone have a preferred product. Once the car is back on the road my wife and I would like to travel and I don't need it to be uncomfortable. Not sure if this info is needed, single 4 barrel carb with a two speed power glide.
Katch
#2
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Your stock generator is 35 amps so its on the edge power-wise but many C1s with A/C use it successfully. The new owner of my 61 added A/C and kept the generator. As to the kit used I think his was the latest Vintage Air offering. Another 60 owner on here "Toms Silver 60" installed Vintage Air as well. Its doable but tight... You can PM him on here for details.
Here is a thread on a C1 with Classic Auto Air done very nicely and not too 'in-your-face':
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...n-my-62-a.html
Here is a thread on a C1 with Classic Auto Air done very nicely and not too 'in-your-face':
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...n-my-62-a.html
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; 01-05-2018 at 07:16 AM.
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Thanks for the info Frankie. Having a tach that is generator driven doesn't allow me to use an alternator that looks like an original generator. Is it right to say I have no options but to use my original generator. If it's more amps I need is it possible to do something to my generator to boost amps.
Katch
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Also looking at replacing my dash pad. Why is there such a price difference from supplier to supplier. In some cases over a hundred dollar difference.
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#6
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I would stay with your generator unless you find its inadequate.....there are workarounds if it proves not up to the task that will still give you a tach but I don't care for most of them...
The price difference on dash pads are quality and name recognition, Al Knock and Corvette America are bigger names than Romeo Engineering.....some say one fits better than the others. My RE pad was put in around 2008 before they fixed a lot of issues.
I would have ripped my back pocket off getting out $100 for a better pad if I had known the problems I would have to deal with by not doing so in the first place.
The price difference on dash pads are quality and name recognition, Al Knock and Corvette America are bigger names than Romeo Engineering.....some say one fits better than the others. My RE pad was put in around 2008 before they fixed a lot of issues.
I would have ripped my back pocket off getting out $100 for a better pad if I had known the problems I would have to deal with by not doing so in the first place.
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I would stay with your generator unless you find its inadequate.....there are workarounds if it proves not up to the task that will still give you a tach but I don't care for most of them...
The price difference on dash pads are quality and name recognition, Al Knock and Corvette America are bigger names than Romeo Engineering.....some say one fits better than the others. My RE pad was put in around 2008 before they fixed a lot of issues.
I would have ripped my back pocket off getting out $100 for a better pad if I had known the problems I would have to deal with by not doing so in the first place.
The price difference on dash pads are quality and name recognition, Al Knock and Corvette America are bigger names than Romeo Engineering.....some say one fits better than the others. My RE pad was put in around 2008 before they fixed a lot of issues.
I would have ripped my back pocket off getting out $100 for a better pad if I had known the problems I would have to deal with by not doing so in the first place.
#8
Melting Slicks
Hello Canada
Do a search on this forum and there are a number of recommendations on this project. Hardest part up front is how far do you want to go to get max use out of the AC and upgrade/update you car.
My latest take on subject is to go alternator and put in one large electric fan and get rid of mechanical fan. Also use 61 Chevy truck alternator bracket, the VA bracket did not work well at all.
Rich Mozetta and Mike Coletta are the pros for this project.
Send me an email at blountte1@gmail.com and I will send you a word or pdf on the conversion project. Tried it here, no could get to work.
You will LOVE how well the defroster works!
My latest take on subject is to go alternator and put in one large electric fan and get rid of mechanical fan. Also use 61 Chevy truck alternator bracket, the VA bracket did not work well at all.
Rich Mozetta and Mike Coletta are the pros for this project.
Send me an email at blountte1@gmail.com and I will send you a word or pdf on the conversion project. Tried it here, no could get to work.
You will LOVE how well the defroster works!
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Dash pad Installation
. 👍 I agree. And if you are going to install the pad yourself, Rich Mozzetta has an excellent installation tutorial. He just sent me the pdf file on it. I highly reccomend it. There are so many little things that he covers that make professional looking installation It will save you many hours of aggravation
Katch
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email coming your way
Now is the time to do EVERYTHING related to the dash, to include the carpets. Once this unit is installed, you can't see anything under dash except black hoses (which need to be strung up high so your feet don't move them). Trim bottom of your kick panels so that they do not hold down your carpet, as it would be a MAJOR effort to change out passenger side later on (I am regretting that now!)
Email includes a few more notes, to include routing of hoses and moving the battery. Mike Coletta is the real pro, he knows all the smart moves. Rich Mozetta is also a pro on these.
Hoping to see bunch of you guys at NCRS regionals this week. Weather will be much better than last five days.
Email includes a few more notes, to include routing of hoses and moving the battery. Mike Coletta is the real pro, he knows all the smart moves. Rich Mozetta is also a pro on these.
Hoping to see bunch of you guys at NCRS regionals this week. Weather will be much better than last five days.
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Now is the time to do EVERYTHING related to the dash, to include the carpets. Once this unit is installed, you can't see anything under dash except black hoses (which need to be strung up high so your feet don't move them). Trim bottom of your kick panels so that they do not hold down your carpet, as it would be a MAJOR effort to change out passenger side later on (I am regretting that now!)
Email includes a few more notes, to include routing of hoses and moving the battery. Mike Coletta is the real pro, he knows all the smart moves. Rich Mozetta is also a pro on these.
Hoping to see bunch of you guys at NCRS regionals this week. Weather will be much better than last five days.
Email includes a few more notes, to include routing of hoses and moving the battery. Mike Coletta is the real pro, he knows all the smart moves. Rich Mozetta is also a pro on these.
Hoping to see bunch of you guys at NCRS regionals this week. Weather will be much better than last five days.
Katch
#12
Melting Slicks
Don't forget wiring harnesses and installing electrical protection. My 60 has had one major and 2 minor dead shorts over the past 53 years. Frankie and Rich are experts on this.
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Katch
#14
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Hi Tom, got a little side tracked there.The wiring in the car is still original. Mostly cleaning ground wires over the years is all I've ever had to do. I would guess you replaced yours all with new wiring. Is it possible to get away with keeping the original wiring.
Katch
Katch
Its nearly a case-by-case basis but 60 year old wiring is always suspect unless you verify otherwise...
If nothing else then add the add'l recommended fuses to your car at the ammeter, clock and cigarette lighter...these cars were lightly fused to say the least.
Search on here for a thread titled "C1 fuse points" for info...
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The person that bought my original '61 put aftermarket A/C in it and kept the original wiring and generator for that matter....no issues.
Its nearly a case-by-case basis but 60 year old wiring is always suspect unless you verify otherwise...
If nothing else then add the add'l recommended fuses to your car at the ammeter, clock and cigarette lighter...these cars were lightly fused to say the least.
Search on here for a thread titled "C1 fuse points" for info...
Its nearly a case-by-case basis but 60 year old wiring is always suspect unless you verify otherwise...
If nothing else then add the add'l recommended fuses to your car at the ammeter, clock and cigarette lighter...these cars were lightly fused to say the least.
Search on here for a thread titled "C1 fuse points" for info...
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Regarding you questions of generator/alternator with tach drive, there are a couple of options for you. In the link below even though it is not shown in that link this company has a new product that is and alternator that looks like a generator that has a tach drive. I went through all of this recently on my 57 and ended up just putting on a late model alternator with built in VR. I then converted my tach with an electronic gut in the original tach.
https://authenticautomotive.net/new-products/
https://authenticautomotive.net/new-products/
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Regarding you questions of generator/alternator with tach drive, there are a couple of options for you. In the link below even though it is not shown in that link this company has a new product that is and alternator that looks like a generator that has a tach drive. I went through all of this recently on my 57 and ended up just putting on a late model alternator with built in VR. I then converted my tach with an electronic gut in the original tach.
https://authenticautomotive.net/new-products/
https://authenticautomotive.net/new-products/
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Like everything else in this hobby. If you JUST HAVE to retain the original look there is nothing cheap about it. I bounce back an forth with this. I went to a lot of extra expense with my engine for a hole at the back of the block so I could run my 9 fin valve covers and then turned right around and replaced my gen. with an alt. so go figure.
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Like everything else in this hobby. If you JUST HAVE to retain the original look there is nothing cheap about it. I bounce back an forth with this. I went to a lot of extra expense with my engine for a hole at the back of the block so I could run my 9 fin valve covers and then turned right around and replaced my gen. with an alt. so go figure.
I just contacted Authentic Automotive and at the moment they are working on a gen/alt that works with the Corvette tach drive. It should be available in a few weeks or so. The current one for the P/S will allow the tach drive to bolt on but the rpm will be off.
Mac