Removing the windshield, oh no the PO didn't
#21
Burning Brakes
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Watching this thread as I'm just about ready to remove the windshield from my '63.
I see the tool that is used to find the clips, but just exactly what do you do when you do find the clips?
Does the tool run over/through the clips, thus releasing them from the stainless?
Or do you run up to the clips, and then have to pry the stainless from the clips?
Looking forward to seeing your windshield completely removed.
Thanks,
Pat
I see the tool that is used to find the clips, but just exactly what do you do when you do find the clips?
Does the tool run over/through the clips, thus releasing them from the stainless?
Or do you run up to the clips, and then have to pry the stainless from the clips?
Looking forward to seeing your windshield completely removed.
Thanks,
Pat
As for the tool, I really liked this one. You have to run it along the trim holding the handle away from the window, this pries the trim up a little and makes sure the tip of the tool is reaching deep behind the weatherstrip to find the clips. Once you find a clip hold it there and turn the tool handle rotation wise to the weatherstrip. This pushes the clip loose. While unleasing the clip a little bit upward pressure by pulling the trim simultaniously will make it pop off easier. I will have to add that my car is a 66, your car is a 63 so the trim clips will be different. And I don't have exprience with those.
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#22
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Watching this thread as I'm just about ready to remove the windshield from my '63.
I see the tool that is used to find the clips, but just exactly what do you do when you do find the clips?
Does the tool run over/through the clips, thus releasing them from the stainless?
Or do you run up to the clips, and then have to pry the stainless from the clips?
Looking forward to seeing your windshield completely removed.
Thanks,
Pat
I see the tool that is used to find the clips, but just exactly what do you do when you do find the clips?
Does the tool run over/through the clips, thus releasing them from the stainless?
Or do you run up to the clips, and then have to pry the stainless from the clips?
Looking forward to seeing your windshield completely removed.
Thanks,
Pat
Here's my artist's rendition of the situation. You basically need to pry the clip up just a bit to allow the end of the molding with a little lip on it to release from the clip. I usually pry up a little and then pull out on the molding, it doesn't take much.
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I will remove the windshield fully today, I am now at the point of having all the trim removed and the wheaterstrip is cut. Just waiting for an extra pair of hands to remove it fully. after having all the trim removed I can see where the PO ran into a problem. Actually almost all the clips where installed on my car but unreachable for the trim because of the thickness of the weatherstrip they used. The result was a whole bunch of goop and only 1/3 of the clips used.
As for the tool, I really liked this one. You have to run it along the trim holding the handle away from the window, this pries the trim up a little and makes sure the tip of the tool is reaching deep behind the weatherstrip to find the clips. Once you find a clip hold it there and turn the tool handle rotation wise to the weatherstrip. This pushes the clip loose. While unleasing the clip a little bit upward pressure by pulling the trim simultaniously will make it pop off easier. I will have to add that my car is a 66, your car is a 63 so the trim clips will be different. And I don't have exprience with those.
As for the tool, I really liked this one. You have to run it along the trim holding the handle away from the window, this pries the trim up a little and makes sure the tip of the tool is reaching deep behind the weatherstrip to find the clips. Once you find a clip hold it there and turn the tool handle rotation wise to the weatherstrip. This pushes the clip loose. While unleasing the clip a little bit upward pressure by pulling the trim simultaniously will make it pop off easier. I will have to add that my car is a 66, your car is a 63 so the trim clips will be different. And I don't have exprience with those.
Keep the pics coming, as it looks like you have just about got it done.
Also, let me know your experience with the new weather-stripping, and how it works out for you. And....what brand you used.
Great thread, and perfect timing for me! LOL!
Take care,
Pat
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There are several youtube clips on removing vintage automotive trim and they also show the different tools available,,
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Twan;
I volunteer to be a second person to help remove your windshield for the price of an overseas air fare ticket.
I volunteer to be a second person to help remove your windshield for the price of an overseas air fare ticket.
#28
Burning Brakes
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Well the window is out and there isn't any severe rust and almost all the clips were there just not used. no excessive rust just a bit of surface rust in the center at the bottom actually looks worse in the pictures than in person. With some sanding and painting will be great
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#31
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A little late to the game but here is some nice info about C2 windshield R&R, the tools and their use:
http://www.stl-vettes.com/65Vette/wi...windshield.htm
http://www.stl-vettes.com/65Vette/wi...windshield.htm
#32
Burning Brakes
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A little late to the game but here is some nice info about C2 windshield R&R, the tools and their use:
http://www.stl-vettes.com/65Vette/wi...windshield.htm
http://www.stl-vettes.com/65Vette/wi...windshield.htm
Last edited by Twan Sloot; 01-07-2018 at 08:15 AM.
#33
Burning Brakes
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Well took the whole day sanding cleaning and sanding and cleaning, you get it. But the result was great the birdcage is rust free and put down a heavy rust protecting primer
matching rally red paint (close) going on at the end of the week and this weekend try to mount the windshield again
matching rally red paint (close) going on at the end of the week and this weekend try to mount the windshield again
Last edited by Twan Sloot; 01-15-2018 at 07:43 PM.
#34
Burning Brakes
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Well put the windshield back in today, here a little write up from what I did in the last weeks
I first sanded en primed the cage in rust protectant primer, after that layed down a layer of rally red to start off with a clean and rust protective window channel.
After that I installed all new clips with sealant under them so no water can seep in from there. And test fitted the trim.
Today I finally pulled the cords and put the windshield in. I didn't use any lubricant to let the rubber gasket slip over the pinchweld because I figured that any lubricant will stop the adhesive from adhering when I lay that down.
What's still to come, putting in the messy adhesive, polish the trim, getting the trim back in there.
I first sanded en primed the cage in rust protectant primer, after that layed down a layer of rally red to start off with a clean and rust protective window channel.
After that I installed all new clips with sealant under them so no water can seep in from there. And test fitted the trim.
Today I finally pulled the cords and put the windshield in. I didn't use any lubricant to let the rubber gasket slip over the pinchweld because I figured that any lubricant will stop the adhesive from adhering when I lay that down.
What's still to come, putting in the messy adhesive, polish the trim, getting the trim back in there.
Last edited by Twan Sloot; 04-08-2018 at 10:50 AM.
#35
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thanks for all the replies. to answer some questions
-birdcage has no rust and is pretty much zinc green all around.
-I am almost 100% sure there are no clips since I pried the trim up a little so I could look under there and I couldn't see the black clips only the steel of the trim itself. the glue is pretty old and soft.
-I already got the entire clip set in front of this job because I was going te replace them all anyway.
- easy rhino, yes correct the Netherlands
-will look into Pilot dans tip, but I am affraid that will chip te paint around the windshield.
my guess is that the PO or a shop the PO hired ran into a problem with the trim and glued it in. I haven't looked under all the trim only the left top corner and along the A pillar. so maybe there are some clips to be found
reading your comments I guess the only way to remove it is carefulness and some elbow grease. since the glue is old and soft I might be able to fully save the trim. will keep you updated
-birdcage has no rust and is pretty much zinc green all around.
-I am almost 100% sure there are no clips since I pried the trim up a little so I could look under there and I couldn't see the black clips only the steel of the trim itself. the glue is pretty old and soft.
-I already got the entire clip set in front of this job because I was going te replace them all anyway.
- easy rhino, yes correct the Netherlands
-will look into Pilot dans tip, but I am affraid that will chip te paint around the windshield.
my guess is that the PO or a shop the PO hired ran into a problem with the trim and glued it in. I haven't looked under all the trim only the left top corner and along the A pillar. so maybe there are some clips to be found
reading your comments I guess the only way to remove it is carefulness and some elbow grease. since the glue is old and soft I might be able to fully save the trim. will keep you updated
#39
Burning Brakes
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Well first tip for this job. Imagine messy, then multiply it by 100. Then your coming close onto how messy this glue is.
They say on the tube you have to use gloves but every glue tells you that so I thought how bad can it be. About 20 inches into laying a bead my hands were covered in smudges of compound so I decided to get gloves. I was able to get it in all the corners pretty good. After finishing it. I had to clean a lot with the 3M adhesive cleaner but it worked good and I am pretty happy with the result.
They say on the tube you have to use gloves but every glue tells you that so I thought how bad can it be. About 20 inches into laying a bead my hands were covered in smudges of compound so I decided to get gloves. I was able to get it in all the corners pretty good. After finishing it. I had to clean a lot with the 3M adhesive cleaner but it worked good and I am pretty happy with the result.
Last edited by Twan Sloot; 04-14-2018 at 03:30 PM.
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Twan....totally off topic but I have to commend you on your improvement using English. You've come a long way in the writing area anyway. Probably in the spoken area as well. I remember your first posts here.....
Well done.
Well done.