Tire Failure (Not Vette)
01-12-2018, 05:18 PM
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01-12-2018, 05:27 PM
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01-12-2018, 05:32 PM
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The issue was that six years has been pegged as the time to get rid of tires. I said there is no scientific evidence that that is an accurate prediction. Too many variables to conclude anything. You, somehow have strayed from the subject with your typical California "know it all attitude". You've produced no facts, just tales of different circumstances. No scientific conclusions.
When you decide to get back on topic, let me know. By your own admission, you are the self proclaimed expert, not me. I have no idea what a tire buster is but I know what I've experienced and read. Your experience could be different and that's what makes you an expert..
When you decide to get back on topic, let me know. By your own admission, you are the self proclaimed expert, not me. I have no idea what a tire buster is but I know what I've experienced and read. Your experience could be different and that's what makes you an expert..
I've linked NTSB recommendations, consumer group reports, etc. You proof is being a self admitted tire buster who's seen it all from the visor mirror stuck to the inside of the lid of your open tool box in Tire Depot stall number 14.
Like I said. I'll let the readers decide. Take the advice of a self admitted tire buster who gets angry when challenged or the NTSB and industry experts.
Carry on.
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01-12-2018, 06:10 PM
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So now the “discussion” has turned from passenger cars/corvette tires to motor homes and semis?
Yeah, those are close.......
Yeah, those are close.......
01-12-2018, 06:21 PM
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Phew When I go on vacation I will jack my vehicle up to avoid flat spots. its called insurance Had a radial blow out on my white 63 corvette yes old tires Same Church different Phew .
SEE where I am getting at .
SEE where I am getting at .
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01-12-2018, 06:52 PM
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Well the verdict is in - she did strike an object on the road. Fortunately (or unfortunately maybe) there was evidence when the tire was removed there were two pretty solid gouges in the inner wheel barrel made by something penetrating all the way through the tire. Probably watching for her exit instead of the immediate roadway. So the Continental tires were not at fault in any way and in fact the franchise owner said he ran them on his car even though he gets free tires. Still, they were getting real slippery after 3 years (uphill starts on wet roads usually just produce wheel spin and no motion) so she's got all new tires (we did switch brands to get a higher speed rating and wear rating) and is ready to go again. One tire was adjusted to half price under the Road Hazards Warranty we had on them.
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01-13-2018, 09:58 AM
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01-13-2018, 11:40 AM
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For you doomsday people on tire safety this was the consensus of the "experts" as of 2014. Please note, there is no consensus between auto makers, tire manufacturers and rubber suppliers. Also note there are no recommendations on replacing older tires from NHTSA as previously and erroneously reported.
How Long Does a Tire Last?
Carmakers, tire makers and rubber manufacturers differ in their opinions about the lifespan of a tire. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has no specific guidelines on tire aging and defers to the recommendations of carmakers and tire manufacturers. Carmakers such as Nissan and Mercedes-Benz tell consumers to replace tires six years after their production date, regardless of tread life. Tire manufacturers such as Continental and Michelin say a tire can last up to 10 years, provided you get annual tire inspections after the fifth year.
The Rubber Manufacturers Association says there is no way to put a date on when a tire "expires," because such factors as heat, storage and conditions of use can dramatically reduce the life of a tire. Here's more on each of these factors.
Heat: NHTSA research has found that tires age more quickly in warmer climates. NHTSA also found that environmental conditions like exposure to sunlight and coastal climates can hasten the aging process. People who live in warm weather and coastal states should keep this in mind when deciding whether they should retire a tire.
Most sources will tell you that under inflation is the #1 cause of tire failures. Most informed sources will also tell you, it is the nature of steel radial tires to slowly lose air and further, since most owners don't check their tire pressures, many of them get run low on air. The older the tire, the more miles it can be driven low on air and sooner or later can cause the destruction of the tire.
If anyone has any "real, updated science", please post it. This is current to my knowledge. No science, just scattered collected information.
How Long Does a Tire Last?
Carmakers, tire makers and rubber manufacturers differ in their opinions about the lifespan of a tire. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has no specific guidelines on tire aging and defers to the recommendations of carmakers and tire manufacturers. Carmakers such as Nissan and Mercedes-Benz tell consumers to replace tires six years after their production date, regardless of tread life. Tire manufacturers such as Continental and Michelin say a tire can last up to 10 years, provided you get annual tire inspections after the fifth year.
The Rubber Manufacturers Association says there is no way to put a date on when a tire "expires," because such factors as heat, storage and conditions of use can dramatically reduce the life of a tire. Here's more on each of these factors.
Heat: NHTSA research has found that tires age more quickly in warmer climates. NHTSA also found that environmental conditions like exposure to sunlight and coastal climates can hasten the aging process. People who live in warm weather and coastal states should keep this in mind when deciding whether they should retire a tire.
Most sources will tell you that under inflation is the #1 cause of tire failures. Most informed sources will also tell you, it is the nature of steel radial tires to slowly lose air and further, since most owners don't check their tire pressures, many of them get run low on air. The older the tire, the more miles it can be driven low on air and sooner or later can cause the destruction of the tire.
If anyone has any "real, updated science", please post it. This is current to my knowledge. No science, just scattered collected information.