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[C1] Who among you has installed a big block Chevy engine in a 57 Corvette ?

 
Old 09-14-2018, 05:27 PM
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Rex,that engine would look great in my 67 coupe!! Killer injection settup!!!
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Sliding off topic. I put one in a 57 passenger car in 1970, bought almost new 69 Chevelle setup radiator to drive shaft. fabricated AC brackets, drove it for several years as our family car.
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Originally Posted by Vette5311 View Post
I am wanting to do this and have a copied set of motor mounts that I believe came off of an early swap kit. I forget the name but have the info in my files. I can get you pics if interested. I had the headers and foolishly sold them years ago. My big question has always been "would the low rise 454 LS6 aluminum intake clear the hood or would a scoop still be needed?" Let me know what you decide. Good Luck
YES, very interested in any pics you can share. I thought the same thing about the LS-6 low rise aluminum intake.



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I had a 427 in a '57 years ago. I bought it with the car already converted. Headers would be an issue and a different motor mounting system is needed. The engine fit in the compartment very well, however, with actually more room than I would have thought. If I can find some pics, I will post them. This was in 1980.
Thanks Dan. I would appreciate seeing any pics you can share.


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Come on Rex, you know it can be done by someone with your talent and resources!! You just need a big frickin hammer and a sawzall.
Your guy that fabs the L88 headers should be able to whip up a nice set of headers for you. How is Irvin coming along on the body??
Jim

Thanks Jim,......................we're working on a set of fenderwell headers.
Car is not at Irvin's................................. .............yet.

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Cool set up. What is it? With the 'current' sensor plug in, it does not appear to be something from back in the day.....

On another note, it is always fun to see what is in the background in photos. Carpet on the floor, cabinets with fancy hardware.... a beauty like that DOES deserve to be in the house, not out in the shop.....

Thanks. It's an aluminum big block out of a McLaren Can Am car. Induction is Kinsler crossram converted to EFI. It was residing in my family room downstairs.
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YES, very interested in any pics you can share. I thought the same thing about the LS-6 low rise aluminum intake.





Thanks Dan. I would appreciate seeing any pics you can share.




Thanks Jim,......................we're working on a set of fenderwell headers.
Car is not at Irvin's................................. .............yet.
I will dig them out over the weekend. Since I posted earlier I remembered the name of the company. (Old timers disease). Herbert and Meek. I think they were out of So Cal and were bought up by Hurst. Their motto was we can put anything in anything - or something like that.
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Compared to my last project, yours would be a week-end project. There's a lot of room for that engine in that chassis. The only time consuming part would be building the headers but that's not a big deal.
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I will try and look around. It was a long time ago. I will try and rummage through some old photos this weekend and give you a PM if I am successful.
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Anybody here done this? What is required and what should be avoided? Looking for suggestions and comments from anyone who has actually done this. As always.........................thanks for your input.


Forgot to mention the engine would be one of the new 427 aluminum ZL-1.


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A long time ago a friend bought a motor swap kit from a company called Herbert and Meek. He was putting a big block in his 1962 corvette. I had a 62 at the time with a 327 and wanted to do the same thing, so he let me make a copy of his mounts. As I recall, although it has faded a bit with time, the uprights bolted to the same spots, brackets as the sbc did. But I am not sure of that as the difference in length is in the front on a big block. Distance from side mount to bellhousing is the same I believe. So maybe the brackets had to be moved on the frame. The mounts were designed to bolt on just like the sbc ones do. The pieces I call elephant ears, bolt to the bbc below the water pump next to the balance damper, same spot as a tri 5 chevy. The mount that goes between was to be the same as stock C1 rubber, but now they make a better mount setup from street rod people like Speedway Mtrs. that I would use. The mounts are made of 1/4 inch steel plate. There is a difference between the right and left uprights but I can't remember what. They probably only fit one way correctly. The thing I really liked about them is that they free up a lot of room for building headers as compared to conventional side mounts. Now instead of using the "elephant ears" brackets I believe I would use the front saddle mount that goes side to side and bolts on under the balance damper. Not sure if the height would work as is, might have to redo the height on the uprights to get the motor in the right spot height wise. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Speedway-13...e/381244396627 There is a plastic big block replica available to build with but kinda pricey. I would probably just use a bare block, but I don't have one at the moment. Hope this helps. Good Luck. let me know how it turns out, I'm still trying to decide if I want to do this with my C1. I really don't want to cut a hole in the hood, so that is my big problem.
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A long time ago a friend bought a motor swap kit from a company called Herbert and Meek. He was putting a big block in his 1962 corvette. I had a 62 at the time with a 327 and wanted to do the same thing, so he let me make a copy of his mounts. As I recall, although it has faded a bit with time, the uprights bolted to the same spots, brackets as the sbc did. But I am not sure of that as the difference in length is in the front on a big block. Distance from side mount to bellhousing is the same I believe. So maybe the brackets had to be moved on the frame. The mounts were designed to bolt on just like the sbc ones do. The pieces I call elephant ears, bolt to the bbc below the water pump next to the balance damper, same spot as a tri 5 chevy. The mount that goes between was to be the same as stock C1 rubber, but now they make a better mount setup from street rod people like Speedway Mtrs. that I would use. The mounts are made of 1/4 inch steel plate. There is a difference between the right and left uprights but I can't remember what. They probably only fit one way correctly. The thing I really liked about them is that they free up a lot of room for building headers as compared to conventional side mounts. Now instead of using the "elephant ears" brackets I believe I would use the front saddle mount that goes side to side and bolts on under the balance damper. Not sure if the height would work as is, might have to redo the height on the uprights to get the motor in the right spot height wise. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Speedway-13...e/381244396627 There is a plastic big block replica available to build with but kinda pricey. I would probably just use a bare block, but I don't have one at the moment. Hope this helps. Good Luck. let me know how it turns out, I'm still trying to decide if I want to do this with my C1. I really don't want to cut a hole in the hood, so that is my big problem.

Thank you sir!!!!! I appreciate your help.
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Rex, I have a Ď66 427 bare block. Glad to loan it to you if helpful. Iím south of Nashville but coming to Louisville.
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http://www.redlinestands.com/catalog...e-heads-p-1049

A little spendy but this would cut down on a lot of time spent figuring header and motor mount issues.
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http://www.redlinestands.com/catalog...e-heads-p-1049

A little spendy but this would cut down on a lot of time spent figuring header and motor mount issues.
I used one on my last project. They make a big difference when you have to install/remove the engine 50 times during the fabrication stage. They are available for a LOT cheaper elsewhere though. That one is available through Summit for $450. For those that don't know, P-AYR makes just about every engine imaginable.
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Rex, I have a Ď66 427 bare block. Glad to loan it to you if helpful. Iím south of Nashville but coming to Louisville.

Thank for the very generous offer but IFFFFFFFFF I do this, I will use the NOS ZL-1 aluminum block sitting in my basement.

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http://www.redlinestands.com/catalog...e-heads-p-1049

A little spendy but this would cut down on a lot of time spent figuring header and motor mount issues.
has the same thing for about $130 less.
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Big Block 57's have been around for a while!

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I'll drag this one out again................................... ..........

I'm sure it CAN be done, but one of the biggest obstacles that I can see would be headers. I know Bill Thomas used to make a complete kit for the installation, including headers, but this was back in the 60s - 70s. I really would like to do it but the headers are the show stopper at this time.
I bought a 396 that came out of a '58 Vette with the Bill Thomas headers back in '70. I wish I would have kept the headers for you Rex!

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Originally Posted by Dr L-88 View Post
Anybody here done this? What is required and what should be avoided? Looking for suggestions and comments from anyone who has actually done this. As always.........................thanks for your input.


Forgot to mention the engine would be one of the new 427 aluminum ZL-1.


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I ran a 427 in my '60 for years. Just pulled it out and put in a 383. I live in MI and rarely was able to drive it in August. You will need a hood scoop too. Don't get me wrong, it was a grin. put on some baldies, let'er rip and start replacing front suspension parts.
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I know everyone says you have to cut the hood. However I have never found anyone who can say they tried the LS6 low rise intake. If you've ever seen one the runners actually go down from the ports. I think it was originally designed for the C3 corvette but found greater usage in the 1970 Chevelle. I will post a picture and actually measure the carb pad height this week. I would really like to do this but I will not cut my hood on my C1
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I know everyone says you have to cut the hood. However I have never found anyone who can say they tried the LS6 low rise intake. If you've ever seen one the runners actually go down from the ports. I think it was originally designed for the C3 corvette but found greater usage in the 1970 Chevelle. I will post a picture and actually measure the carb pad height this week. I would really like to do this but I will not cut my hood on my C1

I agree Jon. I think by using the LS6 intake and possibly lowering the engine about an inch, a scoop won't be necessary.

Thanks for your help.

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My '57 with the 427 did not have a scoop.
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