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Old 02-01-2018, 08:30 PM
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Not looking for an expensive, original matching numbers carb. I am not even sure how the original was configured. Double pumper? Vacuum secondaries? I have a new to me 65 coming with the original 327/300 that I will likely dress as a 350 h.p. car. I already have the factory intake, oil fill tube, etc. I want a carb with good street manners. I have always liked vacuum secondaries for this reason.

Also wondering how the original 300 h.p. cam will do with this change?

What do you suggest?
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buy a service replacement dated correct carb and move on
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Automatic or manual transmission??
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Automatic or manual transmission??
4 speed.
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Stock is 585cfm vacuum secondaries
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buy a service replacement dated correct carb and move on
I picked up a service replacement Holley 2818-1 in great used condition, correct for a '65 L76, on the parts for sale forum for around $200 and change. Only "wrong" about it is the date, but that mismatching date probably saved me at least $600.

The 300hp used the Carter AFB, IIRC.
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Originally Posted by 68hemi
Not looking for an expensive, original matching numbers carb. I am not even sure how the original was configured. Double pumper? Vacuum secondaries? I have a new to me 65 coming with the original 327/300 that I will likely dress as a 350 h.p. car. I already have the factory intake, oil fill tube, etc. I want a carb with good street manners. I have always liked vacuum secondaries for this reason.

Also wondering how the original 300 h.p. cam will do with this change?

What do you suggest?
Manifold, carb and cam ought to be matched with each other. Leaving the cam stock while changing intake and increasing carb CFM will probably not give you the optimal setup. L79 cam is a very popular grind and probably worth the investment.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Holley-8045...tabMBZ&vxp=mtr


This would work and be dirt cheap
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Originally Posted by SW Vette
Manifold, carb and cam ought to be matched with each other. Leaving the cam stock while changing intake and increasing carb CFM will probably not give you the optimal setup. L79 cam is a very popular grind and probably worth the investment.

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Yes, I am aware. May change the cam later. Was just wondering if there is an real world users that have done this without the cam change and how it performed.
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here is a basic 650 cfm, electric choke, vacuum secondaries 4150 series carburetor. Some what larger than the original to work with a slightly more aggressive camshaft.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...783c/overview/
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My thoughts FWIW, use the stock AFB, it's a great carburetor for your engine.

If you want to dress it up some install a set of the Corvette aluminum valve covers and polish your radio shielding and save your $$$.

Enjoy your car.
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Thanks I have it on my watch and bid list. It is the same as this new one.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...457s/overview/
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Originally Posted by tbarb
My thoughts FWIW, use the stock AFB, it's a great carburetor for your engine.

If you want to dress it up some install a set of the Corvette aluminum valve covers and polish your radio shielding and save your $$$.

Enjoy your car.
I already have an original pair of aluminum valve covers, 350 h.p. manifold air cleaner and associated parts in my parts collection. Will the original AFB bolt pattern fit the 350 h.p. intake?
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Originally Posted by 68hemi
I already have an original pair of aluminum valve covers, 350 h.p. manifold air cleaner and associated parts in my parts collection. Will the original AFB bolt pattern fit the 350 h.p. intake?
That is the same carb I have on my car, works pretty good. Electric choke is a big positive for me, My brother has the same carb on his '65 with a hand choke...pain in the butt...

Just be carful on this one...guy is raping you on the shipping [$50]...but if you could get it for $100-$150 and add shipping, that would be a nice deal IMO.

An 1850 style carb is close to what could have come on a C2 327

A 4150 style carb, and correct me if I'm off base here is a 396/427 style carb.

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Originally Posted by karkrafter
That is the same carb I have on my car, works pretty good. Electric choke is a big positive for me, My brother has the same carb on his '65 with a hand choke...pain in the butt...

Just be carful on this one...guy is raping you on the shipping [$50]...but if you could get it for $100-$150 and add shipping, that would be a nice deal IMO.

An 1850 style carb is close to what could have come on a C2 327

A 4150 style carb, and correct me if I'm off base here is a 396/427 style carb.
I saw that. If I win it I will pay actual shipping cost or he will be keeping it. I don't care about the numbers as this set up I will be using is not correct for the car anyway. I will just keep the original equipment on the storage shelf with any other take off parts.
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Without a somewhat aggressive cam, don't "over carburet" the engine. I would change out to the L79 cam, as someone suggested. It give you a lot more options on carb choices.
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I saw that. If I win it I will pay actual shipping cost or he will be keeping it. I don't care about the numbers as this set up I will be using is not correct for the car anyway. I will just keep the original equipment on the storage shelf with any other take off parts.
Don't be mad at me but don't be that way...Guy is telling you it's $50 up front so it's $50. Figure it in to yor bid...

Yeah it's not fair but ebay is all about total price PRICE and SHIPPING.

Trust me, people will see the $50 and bid less than they would if it was $20, but YOU can't have it both ways. Just wanted you to be aware of it and bid accordingly.

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I just put a new Holley Street Avenger 670 w/electric choke on my 72 LT-1 and I really like it. Aluminum with the glass float bowl windows. Runs better than the old 780. I got it on sale before Xmas direct from Holley.

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I already have an original pair of aluminum valve covers, 350 h.p. manifold air cleaner and associated parts in my parts collection. Will the original AFB bolt pattern fit the 350 h.p. intake?
I don't think the original AFB will fit the aluminum intake square bolt pattern but I'm not 100%. All I am saying is IMO it's a waste of $$ to make the changes without any performance gains, the 327/300hp engine is a very nice engine for a street cruiser but I respect your opinions.

The only difference between a 4150 and 4160 Holley is the secondary metering block vs the secondary metering plate, they are the same CFM carburetor.
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Originally Posted by karkrafter
Don't be mad at me but don't be that way...Guy is telling you it's $50 up front so it's $50. Figure it in to yor bid...

Yeah it's not fair but ebay is all about total price PRICE and SHIPPING.

Trust me, people will see the $50 and bid less than they would if it was $20, but YOU can't have it both ways. Just wanted you to be aware of it and bid accordingly.
My feed back on Ebay is 100% with over 500 transactions. I am fair and expect other to be as well. The shipping is for "Expedited Shipping" which I don't need. If I win it I will tell him standard shipping is fine with me and I will pay actual shipping cost. If he is adding profit in the shipping that is not going to fly with me. If he wants to do that he can get in the infommerical business.


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