61' fuelie air filter box
05-16-2018, 08:31 AM
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61' fuelie air filter box
I have an internet friend in Australia who has a ’61 fuelie. The car needs an air filter box but, with shipping, the cost would be over $1000. He does not need an NCRS correct part, so he had the bright idea of using a 3D printer to make the air box. Only problem is we need the dimensions of an original part in order to design the 3D model. Does anyone have any dimensioned drawings or does anyone have an original box from which they could take some measurements?
Thanks,
Charles
Thanks,
Charles
05-16-2018, 09:56 AM
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Charles,
Years ago there were fiberglass reproductions of these housings. They show up from time to time and are significantly less expensive than steel repops or originals. It might be easier to acquire one of these than to develop a 3D model.
Jim
Years ago there were fiberglass reproductions of these housings. They show up from time to time and are significantly less expensive than steel repops or originals. It might be easier to acquire one of these than to develop a 3D model.
Jim
05-16-2018, 10:12 AM
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I have the fiberglass one from way-back-when... and it is serviceable, but nowhere near as good as a metal one... and, as you say, the metal repro ones are $$$.
it is amazing what can be 3D printed now, even out of metal... but it's going to take a large printer just because of the physical size of the assembly.
I am on the Solstice forum and there are a couple of guys who are 3D printing things that are made of 'unobtanium' now for Sky's and Solstices. it is fascinating what they have done and what they think they can do in the future.
bear in mind, there are 2 versions; the big X and the smaller X and the internals are slightly different because of what is used for the filter elements.
I will be interested to see how this goes...
Bill
it is amazing what can be 3D printed now, even out of metal... but it's going to take a large printer just because of the physical size of the assembly.
I am on the Solstice forum and there are a couple of guys who are 3D printing things that are made of 'unobtanium' now for Sky's and Solstices. it is fascinating what they have done and what they think they can do in the future.
bear in mind, there are 2 versions; the big X and the smaller X and the internals are slightly different because of what is used for the filter elements.
I will be interested to see how this goes...
Bill
05-16-2018, 10:52 AM
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Bill:
I was not aware that there were two different sizes. Was the size changed at a certain time period or some other reason?
I have the basic shape designed, just need some exact dimensions.
I was not aware that there were two different sizes. Was the size changed at a certain time period or some other reason?
I have the basic shape designed, just need some exact dimensions.
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05-16-2018, 11:42 AM
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not 2 different sizes, 2 different types. physically the outside dimensions are the same, it's the interiors that are different. the large X lid signifies the earlier models and uses a paper air filter, the small X lid (I think 62 only) uses a foam filter element and requires slightly different internals.
but either version can be used on any 58-62 FI C1
Bill
1st 2pix is 58-62early, 2nd 2pix is 62 only
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05-16-2018, 04:11 PM
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with the foam filter the filter hugs the top sides and lid of the assembly and seals against the lid.
I am using a 'washable' fabric filter (like a K&N but not a K&N) that seals against the lid
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05-17-2018, 07:41 AM
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OK, lets approach this from the inside. The picture below that I lifted off the internet is supposedly an original AC77C filter. Can someone give the the dimensions (A, B, and C) of this filter (or a K&N or other replacement). I would also like to have the overall height of this filter.
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Charles
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05-18-2018, 07:42 AM
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OK. I have a parametric design of the air box in CAD. Just need a few basic measurements from the drawings below - L1, L2, DIA, ANG, H1, and H2. Anyone????
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05-18-2018, 09:19 AM
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DIA is 4.75", an odd duck size.
05-18-2018, 11:19 AM
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05-19-2018, 05:01 PM
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Based on some measurements I found for the K&N replacement filter, I created a 3D model of the air box. Here is a link if you are interested:
http://www.carols62.com/air_box.gif
This is an animated GIF file so give it time to play.
Charles
http://www.carols62.com/air_box.gif
This is an animated GIF file so give it time to play.
Charles
05-19-2018, 05:47 PM
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Based on some measurements I found for the K&N replacement filter, I created a 3D model of the air box. Here is a link if you are interested:
http://www.carols62.com/air_box.gif
This is an animated GIF file so give it time to play.
Charles
http://www.carols62.com/air_box.gif
This is an animated GIF file so give it time to play.
Charles
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05-19-2018, 07:45 PM
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I can get you the measurements tomorrow off mine.
05-19-2018, 07:52 PM
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05-20-2018, 12:50 PM
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H1 = 1 15/16"
H2 = 5 3/4"
H1 + H2 pushed together 7 1/4" (meaning the lip on the top pushes down 7/16")
L1 = 11 5/8"
L2 is where it gets tricky, because one end is wider that the other. L2 on the lid is 7" at its widest point, and 6" and down at the other end.
Diameter at where each air hose connects is 4 5/8".
Angle is roughly 10 degrees but is difficult to measure, especially since the L2 of the filter box has angled to its widest point (6 1/2" without the lid on) where the air hose mounting surface starts.
These measurements are off an original a/c I bought from Jerry Bramlett, not a fiberglass repro.
H2 = 5 3/4"
H1 + H2 pushed together 7 1/4" (meaning the lip on the top pushes down 7/16")
L1 = 11 5/8"
L2 is where it gets tricky, because one end is wider that the other. L2 on the lid is 7" at its widest point, and 6" and down at the other end.
Diameter at where each air hose connects is 4 5/8".
Angle is roughly 10 degrees but is difficult to measure, especially since the L2 of the filter box has angled to its widest point (6 1/2" without the lid on) where the air hose mounting surface starts.
These measurements are off an original a/c I bought from Jerry Bramlett, not a fiberglass repro.
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05-20-2018, 04:59 PM
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Loren:
Thanks so much for the measurements.
I sent you a PM.
Charles
Thanks so much for the measurements.
I sent you a PM.
Charles
H1 = 1 15/16"
H2 = 5 3/4"
H1 + H2 pushed together 7 1/4" (meaning the lip on the top pushes down 7/16")
L1 = 11 5/8"
L2 is where it gets tricky, because one end is wider that the other. L2 on the lid is 7" at its widest point, and 6" and down at the other end.
Diameter at where each air hose connects is 4 5/8".
Angle is roughly 10 degrees but is difficult to measure, especially since the L2 of the filter box has angled to its widest point (6 1/2" without the lid on) where the air hose mounting surface starts.
These measurements are off an original a/c I bought from Jerry Bramlett, not a fiberglass repro.
H2 = 5 3/4"
H1 + H2 pushed together 7 1/4" (meaning the lip on the top pushes down 7/16")
L1 = 11 5/8"
L2 is where it gets tricky, because one end is wider that the other. L2 on the lid is 7" at its widest point, and 6" and down at the other end.
Diameter at where each air hose connects is 4 5/8".
Angle is roughly 10 degrees but is difficult to measure, especially since the L2 of the filter box has angled to its widest point (6 1/2" without the lid on) where the air hose mounting surface starts.
These measurements are off an original a/c I bought from Jerry Bramlett, not a fiberglass repro.
05-22-2018, 02:22 PM
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