SWC mystique & fantasy
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This thread will just reignite the cold war between the split window haters and lovers.
So I'll just sit back and watch the fur fly....
So I'll just sit back and watch the fur fly....
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People decry the fact that the little piece of fiberglass between the rear windows is worth well into 5 digits over the price of a 63 convertible or even a coupe from later years, (there are exceptions) given today's mania over the split window....hard to swallow -- but there you have it...
It does not mean split windows are "better cars", just that the "mystique-fueled" value derangement is real, for now at least....
Ostensibly -- they aren't even that rare -- there were as many split windows produced as the entire 1961 production run of Corvettes.
Now, the few remaining cars with nicely restored or original bodies (regardless of engine size; fuelies being an exception) command a hefty premium...
It does not mean split windows are "better cars", just that the "mystique-fueled" value derangement is real, for now at least....
Ostensibly -- they aren't even that rare -- there were as many split windows produced as the entire 1961 production run of Corvettes.
Now, the few remaining cars with nicely restored or original bodies (regardless of engine size; fuelies being an exception) command a hefty premium...
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Its like everything else Frank, first year cars, one off parts because of it being a first year car, there are those who will pay a premium for what is perceived to be rare or one off, and a SWC is perceived to be one off. I own a convertible, but I would be the first one to tell you that the coupe flows better then the vert, and it does not matter if its a 63 or 67, hell I love them all, no hate here.
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It's iconic. Even those who know little about Corvettes usually know about these. I've had people ask me if my '64 convertible is a split window. I get that question less often than the "Is that a Sting Ray?" question, but it still happens.
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If you don't like like Adolph's or Henry's fantasy, maybe you might like Jules Verne's fantasy a little better?
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If you look at vintage magazine write ups of 1963 Corvettes, you see the enthusiasm for the whole package. Not just one of the two available body styles.
Evidently, owners in recent years have put on a smoke and mirrors show to flim flam the unknowing public into believing there is something really special about them. The styling was a flop. Customer's complained about poor visibility out the back even though they liked the coupe body. Some customers even then didn't like the back window styling so they took a hatchet to the center rib and put in a one piece back window like the later Corvettes used.
That's why the design lasted one year only. Any other way you spin it is BS.
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They got rid of those awful sheet metal hood inserts the next year, also. Those were universally panned in the auto magazines in 1963. They still look cheesy.
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What I want to know is why Chevrolet sold more convertibles in 1963 than they did coupes?
If you look at vintage magazine write ups of 1963 Corvettes, you see the enthusiasm for the whole package. Not just one of the two available body styles.
Evidently, owners in recent years have put on a smoke and mirrors show to flim flam the unknowing public into believing there is something really special about them. The styling was a flop. Customer's complained about poor visibility out the back even though they liked the coupe body. Some customers even then didn't like the back window styling so they took a hatchet to the center rib and put in a one piece back window like the later Corvettes used.
That's why the design lasted one year only. Any other way you spin it is BS.
If you look at vintage magazine write ups of 1963 Corvettes, you see the enthusiasm for the whole package. Not just one of the two available body styles.
Evidently, owners in recent years have put on a smoke and mirrors show to flim flam the unknowing public into believing there is something really special about them. The styling was a flop. Customer's complained about poor visibility out the back even though they liked the coupe body. Some customers even then didn't like the back window styling so they took a hatchet to the center rib and put in a one piece back window like the later Corvettes used.
That's why the design lasted one year only. Any other way you spin it is BS.
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I’d comment that I had a shopping list of possibilities that was pretty long when I bought that car and anyone that wanted a split window and could afford one could look at the Corvette Buyers Guide in any month and find a long list of candidates. They weren’t remotely “rare.” I found the biggest challenge was getting the color you wanted. I did get a lot of disbelief at the time.
It’s a different market these days of course with every speculator trying to make a buck like he’s seen on TV, but the fact is there was nothing difficult about finding and buying a decent one pre-2012.
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What I want to know is why Chevrolet sold more convertibles in 1963 than they did coupes?
If you look at vintage magazine write ups of 1963 Corvettes, you see the enthusiasm for the whole package. Not just one of the two available body styles.
Evidently, owners in recent years have put on a smoke and mirrors show to flim flam the unknowing public into believing there is something really special about them. The styling was a flop. Customer's complained about poor visibility out the back even though they liked the coupe body. Some customers even then didn't like the back window styling so they took a hatchet to the center rib and put in a one piece back window like the later Corvettes used.
That's why the design lasted one year only. Any other way you spin it is BS.
If you look at vintage magazine write ups of 1963 Corvettes, you see the enthusiasm for the whole package. Not just one of the two available body styles.
Evidently, owners in recent years have put on a smoke and mirrors show to flim flam the unknowing public into believing there is something really special about them. The styling was a flop. Customer's complained about poor visibility out the back even though they liked the coupe body. Some customers even then didn't like the back window styling so they took a hatchet to the center rib and put in a one piece back window like the later Corvettes used.
That's why the design lasted one year only. Any other way you spin it is BS.
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Its like everything else Frank, first year cars, one off parts because of it being a first year car, there are those who will pay a premium for what is perceived to be rare or one off, and a SWC is perceived to be one off. I own a convertible, but I would be the first one to tell you that the coupe flows better then the vert, and it does not matter if its a 63 or 67, hell I love them all, no hate here.
Personally, I hate the Yankees and the Montreal Canadiens. Such things develop in a passionate hobby.
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I speced out a sebring silver Z06 but changed my mind because I had always wanted a convertible. Yeah, I know, bad financial decision based on today's prices. My son reminds me frequently. however, based on my fun factor for all those free spirited days of youth, I would never considered trading for a coupe. I think the lines of the SWC are unbeatable for that era, but for my personal fun factor, the free feeling of the convertible is still where I'm at. Coupes are for lookin, convertibles are for drivin. I love them both and wish I had a matching SWC.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c1-and-c2-corvettes/3276038-63-corvette-delivered-to-me-50-years-ago-today.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c1-and-c2-corvettes/3276038-63-corvette-delivered-to-me-50-years-ago-today.html
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