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Old 06-28-2018, 06:26 PM
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I'm buying a 62 vette that has been restomoded with power steering. The vin tag has been relocated to the drivers side front door panel. From its original location on the steering column. It's from a well know reputable dealership, and the title is clear and checks out. WHat do you guys think?
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sure... you are buying a restomod. Already registered? Then no problem...
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Thank you for your reply. I was a little worried after reading horror stories about this issue. I realize the risks but am confident of the cars history and that of the dealership I'm purchasing from. I did ask them and they told me the same. I know there is a second hidden vin on the frame under the drivers side floor board. I don't think I'll be ready the body off to verify at this point anyway.
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Originally Posted by Brew715
I'm buying a 62 vette that has been restomoded with power steering. The vin tag has been relocated to the drivers side front door panel. From its original location on the steering column. It's from a well know reputable dealership, and the title is clear and checks out. WHat do you guys think?
Check with law enforcement. They may consider it an altered VIN. Any alteration to a VIN in my opinion is a no no.
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Check with law enforcement. They may consider it an altered VIN. Any alteration to a VIN in my opinion is a no no.
It is a no no but opening your mouth is a no no.
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Most R&P and electric PS retrofits require the original steering column to be modified or removed completely in the C-1's. This requires the VIN to be relocated. I've been struggling with this decision on a stock 62 and someone on this forum suggested keeping the original column intact, with the VIN spot welded on, and apply for a duplicate to go the car. Sounds like a good solution. In your situation, the VIN has been moved, so it's not a choice. Personally, I don't see it as a problem, as most restromods are highly modified anyway and this type of issue is expected.
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Isn't it common to move it there since that's where it was located from 1956 until it was moved in 1960?

The VIN on the frame can be seen most of the time with a small mirror and a flash light.
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In all states, it's illegal to remove the VIN tag, even for a moment. Some states are pretty lax on this rule, others will impound your car if it looks suspicious. There was a high profile Corvette "seller" that spent some time in the gray bar hotel for this very thing. It's your call.
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This is my opinion and opinion only. Relocating the vin is a huge no no. If for some reason the car was ever under investigation from law enforcement the onus would be on you to prove everything you say. If it's a restomod it may well have a different chassis so that reference is out the window. If it doesn't have a new chassis I hope you aren't paying restomod a price. When you go to sell it you might run into buyers like me. I wouldn't touch it. For the dollars involved it's just not worth the head ache to me. Again this is only my opinion. If you are going to go through with it have a state trooper come inspect it. If there's nothing to hide its not an issue. If it becomes an issue its on the seller at that point not you.
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With Robert61 on this issue.

No sense on you purchasing a "potential" problem. Have it inspected while you "do not" have a monetary investment into it.

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Keep us posted on your decision.
I think I would want a letter from your DOT BEFORE I had any investment in the car
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Originally Posted by 62cruiseer
someone on this forum suggested keeping the original column intact, with the VIN spot welded on, and apply for a duplicate to go the car.
There's no such thing as a "duplicate" VIN plate.

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Originally Posted by JohnZ
There's no such thing as a "duplicate" VIN plate.
True. Though Reproduction tags are available with the right documentation. They can be discerned from an original tag, though.

There have also been dealer affixed replacement tags back in the early 1960s and earlier, but they don't look like an original tag.
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Thanks everyone. All good points. I will update you all later this week and let you know.
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Originally Posted by Brew715
I'm buying a 62 vette that has been restomoded with power steering. The vin tag has been relocated to the drivers side front door panel. From its original location on the steering column. It's from a well know reputable dealership, and the title is clear and checks out. WHat do you guys think?
Depending on the officer maybe State police are often pickier they might impound the car while they investigate . I would only but it if confirmed by a state inspection . And then hold onto that report tight if it passes. Let us know what happens please . Good luck

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As a curious person, what is the recommended solution to people with c1's who upgrade their searing column to something like steeroids? Simple re weld in stock location on the new column? Or is everyone who has ever installed steeroids breaking the law?
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As a curious person, what is the recommended solution to people with c1's who upgrade their searing column to something like steeroids? Simple re weld in stock location on the new column? Or is everyone who has ever installed steeroids breaking the law?
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Of course not, I know Bill (wmf62) reattached his VIN tag on his '62 steering column and it apparently "flew" with the Florida DMV - other states might be more problematic...

On my 63 - the cop the DMV sent out to verify the VIN stood in my driveway while I recited the VIN off the tag on the Z-bar while I laid in the passenger footwell.....the tag could have said anything or have come off a stolen Z-06. Sorta comical...



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UNTIL you have that trooper or organization that wants to make it an issue. Such as the Connecticut troopers showing up at the auction and putting it on hold for a bit.
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My 1961 has a relocated vin tag based on an aftermarket steering column. It was registered in CA, then OR, and now TX with zero issues. I’ve also restored many cars (mainly early Mustangs) where the panel the vin was mounted required replacement with zero issues. In fact, I replaced the entire body on one with an aftermarket Dynocorn body with no issues. I’ve been told by many law enforcement friends and acquaintances that while it is a bit of a gray area, no one they know of will take any drastic action unless other aspects appear shady (vin reported stolen, multiple vins on same vehicle, questionable title, etc.). I think it is unreasonable to expect purity on cars this old with this many owners. If everything else matches up, I wouldn’t even hesitate.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
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Of course not, I know Bill (wmf62) reattached his VIN tag on his '62 steering column and it apparently "flew" with the Florida DMV - other states might be more problematic...

On my 63 - the cop the DMV sent out to verify the VIN stood in my driveway while I recited the VIN off the tag on the Z-bar while I laid in the passenger footwell.....the tag could have said anything or have come off a stolen Z-06. Sorta comical...
at our local DMV office (Tax Collectors Office) a clerk comes out and asks where the VIN is. they may or may not read it themselves. or you can take a form to a dealership/notary/law enforcement office to get it verified. most will not know it is or what or where to look.

it would get interesting if someone wanted to compare the VIN tag on the column to the one on the frame as the frame was replaced with a used one 42 years ago...
Bill

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