Overnight parking at events
09-19-2018, 11:08 PM
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Yea, she was right.
It's pretty hard to argue that, but it's still not right. Just because the insurance company paid me, the thief (alleged), is now free and clear, and ready to profit on his stolen item.
I've been wrong before, but something like this just doesn't seem like it's the right thing to occur, at least to me that is.
Pat
It's pretty hard to argue that, but it's still not right. Just because the insurance company paid me, the thief (alleged), is now free and clear, and ready to profit on his stolen item.
I've been wrong before, but something like this just doesn't seem like it's the right thing to occur, at least to me that is.
Pat
09-19-2018, 11:16 PM
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See Texas Penal Code 9.42 The way things are going with our criminal justice system , it may be necessary to implement something similar Nation Wide. It is my belief that the proper response to a criminal act, weather it be a personal assault or an act of War , should never be proportional, It should be merciless and devastating
Of course that's only the opinion of a Deplorable , or as Biden as recently labeled me " one of the Dregs of society ", but I have indeed used the threat of a weapon, to foil an attempt to steal my corvette
Of course that's only the opinion of a Deplorable , or as Biden as recently labeled me " one of the Dregs of society ", but I have indeed used the threat of a weapon, to foil an attempt to steal my corvette
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09-20-2018, 07:44 AM
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Yea, she was right.
It's pretty hard to argue that, but it's still not right. Just because the insurance company paid me, the thief (alleged), is now free and clear, and ready to profit on his stolen item.
I've been wrong before, but something like this just doesn't seem like it's the right thing to occur, at least to me that is.
Pat
It's pretty hard to argue that, but it's still not right. Just because the insurance company paid me, the thief (alleged), is now free and clear, and ready to profit on his stolen item.
I've been wrong before, but something like this just doesn't seem like it's the right thing to occur, at least to me that is.
Pat
09-20-2018, 08:14 AM
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I read a great idea to recover your car if it is stolen. Hide an old cell phone in your car. Then you can use the "find my phone app" to track it down.
Also, I used to have an automatic fuel shut off valve in a 69 back in the day. The driver had to preform a specific sequence when starting the car or it would run out of fuel in a very short time.
In my case I had to put the car in reverse and push a hidden button to open the valve.
Maybe both the shut off and the cell phone is the best idea.
Also, I used to have an automatic fuel shut off valve in a 69 back in the day. The driver had to preform a specific sequence when starting the car or it would run out of fuel in a very short time.
In my case I had to put the car in reverse and push a hidden button to open the valve.
Maybe both the shut off and the cell phone is the best idea.
09-20-2018, 08:33 AM
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Get a good chain and good locks and chain it to a lamp pole or guard rail!
The thief will either find an easier car to steal or he will have a big surprise when he drives off with it on the back of his tow truck.
When I went to Hershey, I chained the wheels of my trailer to the suspension with a big lock that was plainly visible.
It was there when I got back!
(there were plenty of other trailers without locks that were easier to steal)
The point is, make it A LOT EASIER FOR A THIEF TO STEAL ANOTHER CAR!
The thief will either find an easier car to steal or he will have a big surprise when he drives off with it on the back of his tow truck.
When I went to Hershey, I chained the wheels of my trailer to the suspension with a big lock that was plainly visible.
It was there when I got back!
(there were plenty of other trailers without locks that were easier to steal)
The point is, make it A LOT EASIER FOR A THIEF TO STEAL ANOTHER CAR!
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09-20-2018, 09:46 AM
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"It's time the long arm of the law
put a few more in the ground
send them all to their maker
And he'll settle them down" - Willie and Toby
Sadly in this day and age people do things far worse than steal Corvettes, and still get few if any consequences.
put a few more in the ground
send them all to their maker
And he'll settle them down" - Willie and Toby
Sadly in this day and age people do things far worse than steal Corvettes, and still get few if any consequences.
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09-20-2018, 09:54 AM
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Maybe if they didn't spend our money on a 70.3 Million dollar high school football stadium, or a new 20 million dollar police substation , (cause the didn't like the old one) they could afford to do their job. Maybe they should raise out taxes some more to cover their new office chairs.
09-20-2018, 10:36 AM
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Someone mentioned leaving the doors unlocked to save the soft top. I understand your thinking but that might invalidate your insurance coverage, and also might (laws vary and I'm neither an LEO nor an attorney) make it a lesser crime than if they actually had to force their way in.
By the way - if you have not seen it, find some you-tube clips of those repo trucks that have the hydraulic forks. Forget hooking up the tow truck - these guys can drive up near your car, snake those things under the car, pull it out and drive away with it, in not much longer than it takes to read these words.
By the way - if you have not seen it, find some you-tube clips of those repo trucks that have the hydraulic forks. Forget hooking up the tow truck - these guys can drive up near your car, snake those things under the car, pull it out and drive away with it, in not much longer than it takes to read these words.
09-20-2018, 11:09 AM
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Using deadly force in defense of life is acceptable; using deadly force in defense of property is almost always not acceptable.
Using a firearm to disable a vehicle attempting to steal another vehicle (i.e. shooting out the tires or radiator of a wrecker or flatbed attempting to steal a car) might sound OK, but it also might get you charged with illegal discharge of a firearm, endangering public safety, etc.
Smart move #1 - Leave the gun at home.
I have a criminal attorney friend that deals with some real low lifes. He tells me that he has seen more deadly firearm incidents occur simply because one or more fools brought a gun with them. What would have been a misdeameanor assault turns into a felony murder charge.
OK, horse beaten enough....
Know that if a thief wants your car bad enough, they will get it, your goal is to make it so difficult that they move onto an easier vehicle.
The name of this game is defense in depth, or multiple levels of security protection.
The absolute best thing you can do is keep the car from being moved, period. Chaining it to a tree or pole with a seriously heavy duty logging chain and equally serious lock is a good step. Multiple chains, multiple locks, multiple trees or poles is even better.
Also, if your wheels have openings in them, another serious chain run between the front and rear wheels, again with a serious lock, is a good step.
Wheel boots or removing a wheel are a minor complication to a thief. A wrecker or flat bed that can lift one end of the vehicle gets pasts this.
Kill switches, fuel limit devices, battery disconnect, steering wheel club, brake / clutch pedal club will stop a joy rider, but won't deter a serious thief.
I did see one interesting anti theft "device" a few years ago.
One guy drove his Corvette to the show, and parked it in the hotel parking lot. He parked in a well lit spot but in the very last sport in the corner of the parking lot.
His friend, who trailered his car to the show with an enclosed trailer and a dually truck the parked the trailer in the spot next to the Corvette, and also swung his truck so it was parked in front of the Vette.
The trailer / truck combination had the Corvette completely blocked in the parking lot. The corvette was also chained to the trailer axle with a massive logging chain. A good solution, but it required some team work, and the approval of the hotel for the unusual parking arrangement.
One other thing...I stayed at a hotel named SYNC in Bowling Green. They had nice rooms for rent, and they also had 5 one car garages attached to the hotel for rent. The garage doors were glass / see through, but they were lockable, and I think they also had alarms on them. That might be an interesting trend.
OK, enough for now.
Your absolute best protection is good insurance.
Using a firearm to disable a vehicle attempting to steal another vehicle (i.e. shooting out the tires or radiator of a wrecker or flatbed attempting to steal a car) might sound OK, but it also might get you charged with illegal discharge of a firearm, endangering public safety, etc.
Smart move #1 - Leave the gun at home.
I have a criminal attorney friend that deals with some real low lifes. He tells me that he has seen more deadly firearm incidents occur simply because one or more fools brought a gun with them. What would have been a misdeameanor assault turns into a felony murder charge.
OK, horse beaten enough....
Know that if a thief wants your car bad enough, they will get it, your goal is to make it so difficult that they move onto an easier vehicle.
The name of this game is defense in depth, or multiple levels of security protection.
The absolute best thing you can do is keep the car from being moved, period. Chaining it to a tree or pole with a seriously heavy duty logging chain and equally serious lock is a good step. Multiple chains, multiple locks, multiple trees or poles is even better.
Also, if your wheels have openings in them, another serious chain run between the front and rear wheels, again with a serious lock, is a good step.
Wheel boots or removing a wheel are a minor complication to a thief. A wrecker or flat bed that can lift one end of the vehicle gets pasts this.
Kill switches, fuel limit devices, battery disconnect, steering wheel club, brake / clutch pedal club will stop a joy rider, but won't deter a serious thief.
I did see one interesting anti theft "device" a few years ago.
One guy drove his Corvette to the show, and parked it in the hotel parking lot. He parked in a well lit spot but in the very last sport in the corner of the parking lot.
His friend, who trailered his car to the show with an enclosed trailer and a dually truck the parked the trailer in the spot next to the Corvette, and also swung his truck so it was parked in front of the Vette.
The trailer / truck combination had the Corvette completely blocked in the parking lot. The corvette was also chained to the trailer axle with a massive logging chain. A good solution, but it required some team work, and the approval of the hotel for the unusual parking arrangement.
One other thing...I stayed at a hotel named SYNC in Bowling Green. They had nice rooms for rent, and they also had 5 one car garages attached to the hotel for rent. The garage doors were glass / see through, but they were lockable, and I think they also had alarms on them. That might be an interesting trend.
OK, enough for now.
Your absolute best protection is good insurance.
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09-20-2018, 11:20 AM
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Using deadly force in defense of life is acceptable; using deadly force in defense of property is almost always not acceptable.
Using a firearm to disable a vehicle attempting to steal another vehicle (i.e. shooting out the tires or radiator of a wrecker or flatbed attempting to steal a car) might sound OK, but it also might get you charged with illegal discharge of a firearm, endangering public safety, etc.
Smart move #1 - Leave the gun at home.
I have a criminal attorney friend that deals with some real low lifes. He tells me that he has seen more deadly firearm incidents occur simple because one or more fools brought a gun with them. What would have been a misdeameanor assault turns into a felony murder charge.
OK, horse beaten enough....
Know that if a thief wants your car bad enough, they will get it, your goal is to make it so difficult that they move onto an easier vehicle.
The name of this game is defense in depth, or multiple levels of security protection.
The absolute best thing you can do is keep the car from being moved, period. Chaining it to a tree or pole with a seriously heavy duty logging chain and equally serious lock is a good step. Multiple chains, multiple locks, multiple trees or poles is even better.
Also, if your wheels have openings in them, another serious chain run between the front and rear wheels, again with a serious lock, is a good step.
Wheel boots more removing a wheel are a minor complication to a thief. A wrecker or flat bed that can lift one end of the vehicle gets pasts this.
Kill switches, fuel limit devices, battery disconnect, steering wheel club, brake / clutch pedal club will stop a joy rider, but won't deter a serious thief.
I did see one interesting anti theft "device" a few years ago.
One guy drove his Corvette to the show, and parked it in the hotel parking lot. He parked in a well lit spot but in the very last sport in the corner of the parking lot.
His friend, who trailered his car to the show with an enclosed trailer and a dually truck the parked the trailer in the spot next to the Corvette, and also swung his truck so it was parked in front of the Vette.
The trailer / truck combination had the Corvette completely blocked in the parking lot. The corvette was also chained to the trailer axle with a massive logging chain. A good solution, biut it required some team work, and the approval of the hotel for the unusual parking arrangement.
One other thing...I stayed at a hotel named SYNC in Bowling Green. They had nice rooms for rent, and they also had 5 one car garages attached to the hotel for rent. The garage doors were glass / see through, but they were lockable, and I think they also had alarms on them. That might be an interesting trend.
OK, enough for now.
Your absolute best protection is good insurance.
Using a firearm to disable a vehicle attempting to steal another vehicle (i.e. shooting out the tires or radiator of a wrecker or flatbed attempting to steal a car) might sound OK, but it also might get you charged with illegal discharge of a firearm, endangering public safety, etc.
Smart move #1 - Leave the gun at home.
I have a criminal attorney friend that deals with some real low lifes. He tells me that he has seen more deadly firearm incidents occur simple because one or more fools brought a gun with them. What would have been a misdeameanor assault turns into a felony murder charge.
OK, horse beaten enough....
Know that if a thief wants your car bad enough, they will get it, your goal is to make it so difficult that they move onto an easier vehicle.
The name of this game is defense in depth, or multiple levels of security protection.
The absolute best thing you can do is keep the car from being moved, period. Chaining it to a tree or pole with a seriously heavy duty logging chain and equally serious lock is a good step. Multiple chains, multiple locks, multiple trees or poles is even better.
Also, if your wheels have openings in them, another serious chain run between the front and rear wheels, again with a serious lock, is a good step.
Wheel boots more removing a wheel are a minor complication to a thief. A wrecker or flat bed that can lift one end of the vehicle gets pasts this.
Kill switches, fuel limit devices, battery disconnect, steering wheel club, brake / clutch pedal club will stop a joy rider, but won't deter a serious thief.
I did see one interesting anti theft "device" a few years ago.
One guy drove his Corvette to the show, and parked it in the hotel parking lot. He parked in a well lit spot but in the very last sport in the corner of the parking lot.
His friend, who trailered his car to the show with an enclosed trailer and a dually truck the parked the trailer in the spot next to the Corvette, and also swung his truck so it was parked in front of the Vette.
The trailer / truck combination had the Corvette completely blocked in the parking lot. The corvette was also chained to the trailer axle with a massive logging chain. A good solution, biut it required some team work, and the approval of the hotel for the unusual parking arrangement.
One other thing...I stayed at a hotel named SYNC in Bowling Green. They had nice rooms for rent, and they also had 5 one car garages attached to the hotel for rent. The garage doors were glass / see through, but they were lockable, and I think they also had alarms on them. That might be an interesting trend.
OK, enough for now.
Your absolute best protection is good insurance.
09-20-2018, 12:11 PM
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How many of you folks chained your corvette up in 1965? Darn near none of you.
How many chained up c7’s do you see ar Carlisle? Darn near none of them.
You guys who are worried so much- enjoy whatever it is you’re trying to enjoy. I love this thread.
How many chained up c7’s do you see ar Carlisle? Darn near none of them.
You guys who are worried so much- enjoy whatever it is you’re trying to enjoy. I love this thread.
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09-20-2018, 12:26 PM
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Like others here, I remove the steering wheel of my '67 if I'm on the road. Just pop off the horn button by hand, remove six Phillips head screws and you're done. Easy to do on any 63-67.
09-20-2018, 12:51 PM
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I won't go to all the trouble of chains, etc. but I feel I should do something to protect my car when I have to leave it in a parking lot so I have a Hella red key battery disconnect inside my locked glove box and a wireless motion detector. Both take only a few seconds to deploy. If a thief gets past those, it becomes Adam Boca's problem.
Steve
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09-20-2018, 01:50 PM
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True story: a good friend flew out to Colorado on business and while there, he was smitten with a 67 vette that he saw in a dealer's lot. After his meetings he went and bought the vette, then proceeded to drive it home to NY. Along the way, he needed to get some sleep. So he booked a ground floor motel room. Being concerned about possible theft of his new to him 67 vette, he needed a way to secure the car. He ended up tying one end of the string to the car, and the other end to his big toe!
This was back in the 80's, but we still have a huge laugh about it every time we get together.
This was back in the 80's, but we still have a huge laugh about it every time we get together.
09-20-2018, 01:57 PM
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True story: a good friend flew out to Colorado on business and while there, he was smitten with a 67 vette that he saw in a dealer's lot. After his meetings he went and bought the vette, then proceeded to drive it home to NY. Along the way, he needed to get some sleep. So he booked a ground floor motel room. Being concerned about possible theft of his new to him 67 vette, he needed a way to secure the car. He ended up tying one end of the string to the car, and the other end to his big toe!
This was back in the 80's, but we still have a huge laugh about it every time we get together.
This was back in the 80's, but we still have a huge laugh about it every time we get together.
Steve
09-20-2018, 02:05 PM
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I left my '61 overnight inside the humongous Orlando Convention Center overnight, because they had "security".
I was a bit paranoid so I got to the Sunday portion of the show super early.....the beefy female rent-a-cop that was guarding the cars looked less trustworthy than the spectators at the show...
I was a bit paranoid so I got to the Sunday portion of the show super early.....the beefy female rent-a-cop that was guarding the cars looked less trustworthy than the spectators at the show...
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09-20-2018, 08:50 PM
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these guys can drive up near your car, snake those things under the car, pull it out and drive away with it, in not much longer than it takes to read these words
Surprised at the few I know who have nice stuff but are too cheap to pay for full coverage...no sympathy there.
Theres always another .