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Old 09-19-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Yanulis
This is a very nice "pretty" car, but it is not perfect.

I agree with all the previous criticisms.
Someone spent a lot of money on this restoration, but they fell short on many of the small details.
Things like way too much orange paint on the bellhousing but none on the bypass hose.
Also, the battery terminal clamp is right off the shelf at Walmart.
However, what stands out to me the most is the incorrect position of the alternator adjusting brace.

It is hard to tell from the photo, but a correct "numbers matching" T-10 will have a lower drain plug.

So, is $135,000 a fair price for a pretty car?????
People always point out these things as a deterrent and say that for the high price everything should be perfect. However, most of the things you have stated are small inexpensive thing to fix other than the possible trans being wrong.
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Some here will help others spend their money really fast. I’d love for this car to be worth $135k as that would drag the value of all of ours up I think.

But, alas, it is not.
Old 09-19-2018, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 68hemi
most of the things you have stated are small inexpensive thing to fix other than the possible trans being wrong.
I agree with you.

Someone told me a long time ago......
There are only 3 things that matter, the VIN Tag, Trim Tag and Stamp Pad.
Everything else can be fixed.

Is $135,000 a good price for a SWC that needs a lot of things fixed????
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Originally Posted by Rich Yanulis
I agree with you.

Someone told me a long time ago......
There are only 3 things that matter, the VIN Tag, Trim Tag and Stamp Pad.
Everything else can be fixed.

Is $135,000 a good price for a SWC that needs a lot of things fixed????
Is $135,000 a good price for a SWC that needs a lot of things fixed????

IMO at the ASKING price this should be a fuel injected car.
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When 63 coupe’s completely stripped bodys, with no trim no interior no glass are selling for $70,000 not just asking that money, then $135,000 for a Done car especially if it has the original 340 hp motor is not way out of line. My 63 300 hp cp ex show car, just sold for $145,000

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Originally Posted by 68hemi
IMO at the ASKING price this should be a fuel injected car.
We both agree on that
Old 09-19-2018, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink

That’s the seller’s “moon shot” price. It could prob be had for well under 6 digits after it sits for 3 months and reality sets in.

My consignment dealer advertised my 61 at $89,900 globally and it sold 9 months later for $65k.
I love ya, Frankie, but there is no comparison with a between a '63 SWC and a '61, market-wise. SWC's are hot right now, and hyped. '61's are common and all over the place at all price levels. Apples and Oranges, IMO. I'm betting you wouldn't let your base engine SWC go for south of 100k.....if it were mine, I know I wouldn't!!!!
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I won’t keep on about it.

A few months ago I was the guy getting his nads stomped on here for over-valuing split windows.

Now I’m a low-baller.

What a difference a few months make!
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Old 09-19-2018, 01:58 PM
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Bottom line....the car needs to be looked at in person.
Especially if buying from a used car dealer, like LMC.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I won’t keep on about it.

A few months ago I was the guy getting his nads stomped on here for over-valuing split windows.

Now I’m a low-baller.

What a difference a few months make!
"everybody gets a turn"
Old 09-19-2018, 02:11 PM
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I don't know ANYTHING about this car or the seller, or if this is even a real ad and not a scam, but a friend just sent me this CL listing: https://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/c...677279307.html

Might be worth an inquiry. Again, caveat emptor and all that fine print stuff.
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If this very, very nice looking '63 is in fact #2,248 and shows body #1,055 then I think that there might be something fishy going on. Are you sure that you have the right numbers Eric?
Those numbers do not exactly jive with others that I've recorded including another silver coupe with the same body number.
Take the good advise given and have someone knowledgeable with 63's take a hard look at it.
It may be entirely possible that the tags are correct but best make sure for that kind of hard scratch. Can you post a picture of the vin and trim tags?
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Originally Posted by gold63
If this very, very nice looking '63 is in fact #2,248 and shows body #1,055 then I think that there might be something fishy going on. Are you sure that you have the right numbers Eric?
Those numbers do not exactly jive with others that I've recorded including another silver coupe with the same body number.
Take the good advise given and have someone knowledgeable with 63's take a hard look at it.
It may be entirely possible that the tags are correct but best make sure for that kind of hard scratch. Can you post a picture of the vin and trim tags?
Good catch. There are also at least 2 added data points from the C2 registry that suggest that body number is not correct for chassis 2248.
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The OP has 'kicked the tires' in cyberspace on a bunch of split windows at this point.....I'm counting on him to have the good sense to engage a pro to help out when he gets serious.

The split window market is starting to smack of some of the shenanigans going on with midyear big blocks it seems...
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Originally Posted by Chapter2
I don't know ANYTHING about this car or the seller, or if this is even a real ad and not a scam, but a friend just sent me this CL listing: https://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/c...677279307.html

Might be worth an inquiry. Again, caveat emptor and all that fine print stuff.
95 is a good price for a 340 car but if you look at the front end of that car you can see the driver side front has been hit and repaired the hood doesn’t fit amd the headlight doesn’t fit makes a big difference in value. that’s only what you can see in the picture. 63 did not have knock off wheels so you’re looking at about $3000 for hubcaps and steel wheels. And they did not have redline tires or hurst shifters.

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Another 340HP car. Sure are a lot of those out there. Pretty car. Don't worry about lack of hood blocks. My car is in the mid 7000 and there are no signs of hood blocks on the inner fender or hood.
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Originally Posted by gold63
If this very, very nice looking '63 is in fact #2,248 and shows body #1,055 then I think that there might be something fishy going on. Are you sure that you have the right numbers Eric?
Those numbers do not exactly jive with others that I've recorded including another silver coupe with the same body number.
Take the good advise given and have someone knowledgeable with 63's take a hard look at it.
It may be entirely possible that the tags are correct but best make sure for that kind of hard scratch. Can you post a picture of the vin and trim tags?
That was helpful information and was along the lines of what I was looking for. I had the wrong numbers. The banter about price is somewhat irrelevant to me because $10 or $15K one way or the other won't matter as I have had some good luck in some business deals over the last several years. What will matter is if the trim tag/vin number is wrong because cars with fake trim tags seem to be a pariah and all of these Corvettes are already a pain in the ___ to get rid of. To be precise, the body number on this one is actually 1023 not 1055 and the chassis is 2248 so I guess I must have made a typo. I ran it on the St Louis NCRS decoder and it looked ok but if I buy this car I will certainly get someone who knows what they are doing to verify what they can. The car clearly has the wrong transmission as it should have a T-10 so I appreciate that wart and I really can't say what that does to the value of the car. Here is the trim tag and vin. This vin had the neatest spot weld that I have seen.



I keep waiting for one of these bargain basement 63's that everyone talks about to show up but, as usual, that seems to be elusive or they really need a paint job. A real paint job starts at $20K and then you get into the slippery slope of stainless, chrome, and weatherstripping. I am in serious talk with one forum member for his Red 63 but the car is presently apart and will, in all likelihood, need paint. By the time I buy his car I will save a buck but spend time in the project which probably costs me more in productivity at the office. With that said if the car is as overpriced as several of you say then certainly you want to sell yours for a big profit to Eric "big balance sheet" Lipper. If you don't want to sell yours then I suspect that $120$ - $130K is actually the right money for strong car with a few resolvable warts.

Just my .02

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Old 09-19-2018, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 65 Pro Vette

95 is a good price for a 340 car but if you look at the front end of that car you can see the driver side front has been hit and repaired the hood doesn’t fit amd the headlight doesn’t fit makes a big difference in value. that’s only what you can see in the picture. 63 did not have knock off wheels so you’re looking at about $3000 for hubcaps and steel wheels. And they did not have redline tires or hurst shifters.
Looked at that but if I am starting with a car that might need some attention I have already located it and it is owned by a Forum member who is presently putting it back together. The only thing that I am looking for right now are completely done no stories cars and if I don't find one of those then if this Forum member gets his car back together then I will, in all likelihood, purchase his car.

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Old 09-20-2018, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 65 Pro Vette
Wrong radiator, it’s very hard to tell from pictures but the color seems to be off some. Daytona blue is a very hard Color to redo. It’s hard to tell from this angle underneath but it appears as though it’s a Muncie transmission it should be a Borg Warner T10. Something you should check.
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We have some really sharp people here. I am 90% sure that is a Muncie from the photo, but not certain. The B/W would have been used in cars up to ~15000. It's a nice looking car, and I like the over-detailed underside.
I believe you are correct. That's a Muncie, and I am at 100% Sure. The BW T10 rear bearing housing is more offset at the bottom.

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This is a Borg Warner T10 from about the same view. From my '63, #10582


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