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Old 09-18-2018, 11:33 PM
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I have looked at a bunch of SWC's, including a black one in Fort Worth,and this one came up a few days ago but was immediately sold. The salesman called me today and said that the buyer was unable to get financing so the car is available. The trim tag and vin look very correct, there is an original bill of sale with the car, and Daytona Blue was my second color choice behind Riverside Red. This is a very early car and there are no anti-rattle blocks on the upper lip of the front fenders for the hood which seems wrong to me but some of you experts may know if my suspicions are right or if the early cars might be missing them. The rocker moldings are not right either I think. This car is body 1055 and was produced in November 62. The last four of the vin is 2248. Let me know what else you see wrong on this car -- albeit the underside looks too neat to be NCRS correct but i am ok with that. Swing away.














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Old 09-18-2018, 11:49 PM
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Beautiful car. Peter Klutt seems like a straight shooter.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:12 AM
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The early cars, before approx VIN 6500 did not have hood wedges.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:53 AM
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Wrong radiator, it’s very hard to tell from pictures but the color seems to be off some. Daytona blue is a very hard Color to redo. It’s hard to tell from this angle underneath but it appears as though it’s a Muncie transmission it should be a Borg Warner T10. Something you should check.

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Old 09-19-2018, 01:30 AM
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without an engine pad photo, not much to pick out...battery cable, exhaust and as mentioned, radiator all need attention.

But 2248 is too early to be produced in November....should be Oct. if this place is the same one the TV show was about, they know very little about 63 Corvettes.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:03 AM
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Looks like a very nice car. If you want it, swing away, it will get scooped up.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:21 AM
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Is the LF inner fender a 1966/7 ?
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:02 AM
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I agree with the above comments, take a good look at the drivers side inner fender where it looks like daylight in a small section in the picture.

The car looks very nice though, my advice is to have a NCRS person nearby have a look so you know exactly what you are buying. In your case it would be $$ well spent. All the early things appear to be present and nothing wrong with a car that has had damage if it was repaired correctly.

My opinion is the transmission is a T-10 but it is a little hard to tell. Someone will definitely buy this car when the money gets right.
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Boyan View Post
without an engine pad photo, not much to pick out...battery cable, exhaust and as mentioned, radiator all need attention.

But 2248 is too early to be produced in November....should be Oct. if this place is the same one the TV show was about, they know very little about 63 Corvettes.
You are correct it is an October car. My post was wrong
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:44 AM
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We have some really sharp people here. I am 90% sure that is a Muncie from the photo, but not certain. The B/W would have been used in cars up to ~15000. It's a nice looking car, and I like the over-detailed underside.
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:26 AM
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I own one and dont have enough knowledge myself. I would pay a 63 expert to look at it, money well spent n peace of mind. Good luck n keep us posted.
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:42 AM
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Per the website ad info, this is a Canadian delivery car, and comes with the Canadian detailed documentation. Numbers matching, 327/340hp engine, Muncie M20 trans, frame-off resto, car built on November 2, 1962. Very very pretty car, with a price tag to match.

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Old 09-19-2018, 10:47 AM
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$135000 asking price. Wow, a 64-67 NCRS quality small block mid-year could be had for roughly half that price. Are SWC that much more or is that price a tad high?
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by J.Moore View Post
$135000 asking price. Wow, a 64-67 NCRS quality small block mid-year could be had for roughly half that price. Are SWC that much more or is that price a tad high?
Both. But the price is only perhaps 10-15k too high.....not that big of an amount when you are approaching 150k....Ten years ago, this car would have been half the price. Love it how people on this forum always say cars are a loss and not an investment! Glad my life experiences have been the opposite.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GTOguy View Post
Both. But the price is only perhaps 10-15k too high.....not that big of an amount when you are approaching 150k....Ten years ago, this car would have been half the price. Love it how people on this forum always say cars are a loss and not an investment! Glad my life experiences have been the opposite.
From what I am learning $10 to $15 high is really no big deal if the car is correct because the cost to make a wrong car right is often prohibitive. The other thing I know from the cars that I have collected is every problem with a car becomes bigger when you try to sell.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by J.Moore View Post
$135000 asking price. Wow, a 64-67 NCRS quality small block mid-year could be had for roughly half that price. Are SWC that much more or is that price a tad high?
That’s the seller’s “moon shot” price. It could prob be had for well under 6 digits after it sits for 3 months and reality sets in.

My consignment dealer advertised my 61 at $89,900 globally and it sold 9 months later for $65k.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:35 AM
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The tail light lens look nice, about all I have to offer for a 63.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink View Post

That’s the seller’s “moon shot” price. It could prob be had for well under 6 digits after it sits for 3 months and reality sets in.

My consignment dealer advertised my 61 at $89,900 globally and it sold 9 months later for $65k.
Letting it sit isnt in my mind a good strategy (it might get sold so u jump on the next one faster n that might be a real dog). Get someone to look at it then if its what u want buy it. U can only do so much diligence.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:06 PM
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This is a very nice "pretty" car, but it is not perfect.

I agree with all the previous criticisms.
Someone spent a lot of money on this restoration, but they fell short on many of the small details.
Things like way too much orange paint on the bellhousing but none on the bypass hose.
Also, the battery terminal clamp is right off the shelf at Walmart.
However, what stands out to me the most is the incorrect position of the alternator adjusting brace.

It is hard to tell from the photo, but a correct "numbers matching" T-10 will have a lower drain plug.

So, is $135,000 a fair price for a pretty car?????
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eric lipper View Post
The other thing I know from the cars that I have collected is every problem with a car becomes bigger when you try to sell.
For your best interest, carefully Scrutinize the "numbers matching" stamp pad.
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