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To All Members that have helped me on my Amazing C2 Journey I say Thank You!!
And to all those Negitive Nancy’s that doubted my story I say hopefully Al Grenning can convince you that maybe this is a Real Car.
Nice car for sure. The Certificate says it is good as long as you own the vehicle. So if you get hit by a truck tomorrow is the engine no longer certified? That makes no sense to me.
Late to the party and am confused ... this certificate just "affirms" that the motor is an original, numbers matching engine with the VIN, or is there more to this ?
Your pad was as real as the day is long, not sure why you spend big money on the service - though it's always money well spent when Al certifies the pad. Anyone looking at your car would know that's a real pad....Gorgeous car
What a con job. People actually pay money for someone to write a letter verifying their engine number.
no, the real con job is when people convinced other people two cars in the same condition were worth materially more or less because the engine block was or likely was the exact same one installed on the line - out of tens (hundreds?) of thousands cast just like it. .
Before I was born!
to the OP- car is beautiful and was and is “real” in the truest sense of the word!
I'm not questioning the engine pad stamping at all, I'm sure that it's legit, and it looks like a great car!
But all that certificate says is that the stampings satisfy the requirements for legitimacy in accordance with their blah blah data base.......what the heck does that even mean?? Does anyone other than Al Grenning have access to the data base? If not, that piece of paper is kinda....worthless.
I'm not questioning the engine pad stamping at all, I'm sure that it's legit, and it looks like a great car!
But all that certificate says is that the stampings satisfy the requirements for legitimacy in accordance with their blah blah data base.......what the heck does that even mean?? Does anyone other than Al Grenning have access to the data base? If not, that piece of paper is kinda....worthless.
his data base is years of looking at known original cars with its born with engines and he has countless close up pictures of engine stamps and trim tag pictures to compare. I think he also worked for GM at Tonawanda at some point.
Well now that the op got that out of the way he should join NCRS and take the car though the system.
Last edited by Nowhere Man; 11-14-2018 at 12:45 PM.
Nice car for sure. The Certificate says it is good as long as you own the vehicle. So if you get hit by a truck tomorrow is the engine no longer certified? That makes no sense to me.
I don’t get this either? He should be certifying the Engine and its connection to the car itself. It should have no bearing as to who owns the car at any particular time.
Perhaps he has a "certificate renewal" fee for a new owner, reduced from whatever the initial certification fee is/was.
My point is there should be no reason for a certificate renewal. What is going to change? If it is the original born with engine ad matches the V.I.N. to the car it does not matter who owns the car. That authentication should be good forever.
there should be supporting high resolution photos of the stamp pads to go along with the certification. The only thing they could change is if this oringinal engine was destroyed and replaced with a re-stamped engine. Hence the reason for supporting pictures to go along with the cert.
Perhaps he has a "certificate renewal" fee for a new owner, reduced from whatever the initial certification fee is/was.
This was my point. Why is the pad OK for the previous owner but then when car is sold, engine turns back into a pumpkin. Thus the con. He will gladly recert the engine for a price. And he should be paying us for the service. After all, we are giving him free engine numbers where by he can sell his snake service.
11-13-2018, 09:54 PM
Thanks to All Members.....
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