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List of C1 and C2 Restomods Consigned for Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale 2019
The list has grown even more. Lots of variety with stock frames vs. aftermarket frames, salvage engines vs. crate engines, and some look to have unrestored dash pads, etc. so they are not all equal in any way. However, that is a crap ton of "restomods" consigned for one auction at no reserve.
-Lot 1287 1967 Convertible
-Lot1289 1959
-Lot 1298.1 1963 Coupe
-Lot 1299.1 1959
-Lot 1300.1 1962
-Lot 1313.1 (ill look it up-notes are incomplete)
-Lot 1327 1957
-Lot 1330 1960
-Lot 1331 1961
-Lot 1332 1962
-Lot 1333 1963(red split window with horrible camber they have been pimping since day 1)
-Lot 1343 1963 Split window
-Lot 1346 1959
-Lot 1354 1954
-Lot 1358 1958
-Lot 1362 1962
-Lot 1363 1963 split window(has sold at barrett jackson for three years in a row for some reason??????)
-Lot 1426 1962
-Lot 1427 1957 (notredrob)
-Lot 1433 1963 Split window (norredrob)
-Lot 1440 1960
-Lot 1445 1965 Coupe (notredrob)
-Lot 1445.1 1965 Convertible...has same aftermarket fuelie system as Rob's 65 Coupe above...odd they put these in a row.
-Lot 1451 1966 Convertible
-Lot 1456 1967 Convertible
-Lot 1461 1962 Convertible
So, that is quite a plethora of C1 and C2 restomods all at one auction going at no reserve.
Last edited by 65silververt; 12-21-2018 at 12:20 AM.
Oor someone who acts as general contractor and perhaps assembles the frame/suspension him self but has the body and paint done by a good paint shop, then takes the car to an upholstery shop, then brings the car home puts the wiring, chrome and misc things on ,
vs taking the car to an all in one plug and play shop and paying through the nose? Does that make the plug and play build somehow better than a general contractor car?
Oor someone who acts as general contractor and perhaps assembles the frame/suspension him self but has the body and paint done by a good paint shop, then takes the car to an upholstery shop, then brings the car home puts the wiring, chrome and misc things on ,
vs taking the car to an all in one plug and play shop and paying through the nose? Does that make the plug and play build somehow better than a general contractor car?
Doug
no, I was referring to someone who might have limited mechanical knowledge trying to build a restomod and getting in over their head. That could also apply to some shops as well. It happens all the time with all types of builds and restorations. It takes a lot of knowledge, tools, equipment, and skill to build a full blown restomod properly.
What is the difference between restomod and restoration? And which is the better option for your automotive? It is true that the two terms often cause confusion, but the explanation is fairly straightforward.
Restoration essentially refers to taking a great classic car and bringing it back to life with all (or most) of the original factory parts. The process involves repair of the visible parts (e.g., body trim, interior, etc.), as well as the parts not easily seen (e.g., electrical, suspension, brakes, etc.). The result is a beautifully preserved automobile in factory-new condition with authentic parts – just like it came off the showroom floor decades ago.
Restomod (restoration + modern parts/technology) draws from all the amazing advancements in automobile technology over the past 40+ years to enhance the performance, comfort and safety of the classic car. A restomod car has the timeless appearance of the original, but the outdated guts of the car have been replaced with the more modern, high-performance parts of today. You achieve the same great look, but your vintage car will be revved up with all the latest bells and whistles to create a much better ride for the owner.
And now my question, what were the cars that we build back in the 60s and 70s. The cars with basically stock exteriors and sometimes a mild custom interior (remember diamond pleated), and stuck in a late mode hot rod engine and trans, maybe updated the brakes and suspension to handle to extra horsepower. The word resto-mod had not yet come into the lexicon. I recall people calling them customs or hot rods, or custom hot rods
OK, what would you call a nicely done C2, with great paint, perfect body fit, top end interior, usingf a custom chassis and top of the line, brand now or refurbished C4 parts. Yes, I said C4 parts, and for a reason.
What do we call a car that has all of the high end resto mods parts that we think of using, but using C4 parts instead of C5, C6, C7, or brand new crate parts.
Lets say you have a 1995 ZR-1 with 1200 miles on it. Perfect condition car, investor grade. You pull it out of the garage to do something, and a big tree falls on it, crushing the body, but leaving you with a perfect condition 1200 ZR-1 drivetrain.
Add a C2 body and a custom frame to this combination and, done right, it definitely qualifies as a high end resto-mod.
Lets say you have a 1995 ZR-1 with 1200 miles on it. Perfect condition car, investor grade. You pull it out of the garage to do something, and a big tree falls on it, crushing the body, but leaving you with a perfect condition 1200 ZR-1 drivetrain.
Add a C2 body and a custom frame to this combination and, done right, it definitely qualifies as a high end resto-mod.
might as as well start a new thread so we can all debate this subject one more time.
Most likely saturated with back yard builds, but probably not professional builds.
Hey now, there were shade trees before there were roofs. I remember back in the day, back yarded a 5.3L Vortec in a 72 C-20.....And Street and Performance told me it couldn't be done. Actually everybody that did stand alone parts said the same.
I didn't it anyway. Just needed more bailing wire
The difference between professional builds and backyard builds...If given the choice between United Airlines or Eugene's Duster Service.......at the same price?
Last edited by Mickmeymouse; 12-21-2018 at 02:39 PM.
Oor someone who acts as general contractor and perhaps assembles the frame/suspension him self but has the body and paint done by a good paint shop, then takes the car to an upholstery shop, then brings the car home puts the wiring, chrome and misc things on ,
vs taking the car to an all in one plug and play shop and paying through the nose? Does that make the plug and play build somehow better than a general contractor car?
Doug
Actually there are very few restoration shops or for that matter restomod shops That do everything in the house. Most farm out things like the engine or machine work and also interior.
Actually there are very few restoration shops or for that matter restomod shops That do everything in the house. Most farm out things like the engine or machine work and also interior.
And mark it up accordingly. You can save ton by being your own GC, hauling the car around a bit, do some final assemblyand get the same end result as a
'professional" build, as you had subcontracing "pros" do the hard to do stuff.
I used to see the cost to "restore" a C1 or C2 was $75K, then $100K, then $150K, then $200K posted around here. Maybe it even went to $250K..
Doug
And mark it up accordingly. You can save ton by being your own GC, hauling the car around a bit, do some final assemblyand get the same end result as a
'professional" build, as you had subcontracing "pros" do the hard to do stuff.
I used to see the cost to "restore" a C1 or C2 was $75K, then $100K, then $150K, then $200K posted around here. Maybe it even went to $250K..
Doug
That is the way that I did it when I was doing cars myself. A few years back I decided that I was tired of how long it took and that I could buy cars from people that had them done already and be driving them that day rather than a couple of years later and generally for less than doing them myself. I don’t know how many good years I have left so I am going to enjoy every one of them each day.
Truck: $500
TCI frame and suspension: $10K (assembled and painted in my driveway)
Mack Hils bed kit: $2K (assembled and mig welded in my driveway)
solid walnut bed wood: $1K (installed in my garage)
327 motor (I had,) upgrades: $2K
2004r:$1K Mounted in frame , in my driveway)
Vintage air and compressor: $1K
Refurb stock instrument to modern movement,a nd recondition: $1600 (installed in my garage)
Interior: $1500.
Misc bumpers, parts, wiring harness, window regulators, powder coating, etc: probably $3K (all installed by me)
Outside body work (metal fab for floor and fender repair) $3k (needed trailer)
Steering column and wheel:$1.2K (installed in my garage)
Body prep and paint: $8K (needed a trailer)
Custom wheels: $800
Assembly: only my time.
Plus maybe a couple K in stuff I forgot
Total about $34-$37K
And this is as professional of a stock looking body RestoMod as you can get, PS,PB (4 wheel disc), four link 9" rear, mustang II type front end R&P steering, stellar paint, no dents, waves, orange peel, etc. The only thing missing is an LS engine.
Its not hard, it doesn't have to be expensive if you know where to go to get stuff done. I started the project in April, 2010, it went to the painters in July 2010, i brought it home Jan, 2011, and i twas finished 4 months later.
Any C1 or C2 restomod I would build would look mostly stock, also, no digital gauges, but with an aftermarket frame, four wheel independent suspension and modern motor.
Doug, I was not trying to offend you! After all, i started out building cars in my garage! I was just trying to state that some cars are less than others. Often times, people and even shops get overwhelmed with what they have taken on. Then, once they realize they are in over their heads, the attempt to slap the remainders of it together and pass it through an auction where they hope people will not pay attention to the details or to the non functional items. I don't think most people realize how much time, money, and effort go into building a custom, full restoration(especially on the bloomington gold or NCRS leve)l, or restomod/pro-touring car.
Love your truck! I see you are in AZ, so if you attend the auction, come say hello!
Last edited by 65silververt; 12-21-2018 at 09:30 PM.
I don't think that number of entrants is going to come anywhere close to saturating the market. How many 69 Camaros are registered? There's always a market for certain types of cars, and the modded Corvettes are and will remain hot for the foreseeable future.
12-21-2018, 12:19 AM
List of C1 and C2 Restomods Consigned for Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale 2019
Maybe it even went to $250K..
That is the way that I did it when I was doing cars myself. A few years back I decided that I was tired of how long it took and that I could buy cars from people that had them done already and be driving them that day rather than a couple of years later and generally for less than doing them myself. I don’t know how many good years I have left so I am going to enjoy every one of them each day.
