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Old 01-07-2019, 06:32 PM
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what is the difference in application between an 049 main body and a 1049 main body?

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For the 57 year the info I have says they are interchangeable, so I don't know that there is a significant difference...
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
For the 57 year the info I have says they are interchangeable, so I don't know that there is a significant difference...
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I wasnt sure if 049 were production line or if 1049 were period over the counter replacement or if 049 was front and 1049 was rear.
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245 and 270 hp all have those main bodies. 270 hp main bodies differ but are same number(s).
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And if its a very early 57, they used 56 carbs and only the 049 bodies...
The '56 carbs have the idle air bypass screw in the base as shown...



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Thinking all 0-049 and 0-1049 are the same and according to 58-60 Tech Info Manual & Judging Guide-both are correct. The only difference I know of between the 245 and 270 main bodies would be the counter weights and the main nozzle on the primary side. Not sure I really get this last part but the 270 you can look into the nozzle and on the 245 you cannot see the tube--I don't get this at all. On the air-horn, it may or may not be stamped ahead of "6-1299" casting with front "1161' or rear "1296". And, the prior to 61 front bases will not be tapped for vac.
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The 270 hp carb bodies have primary nozzles cut at a 45* angle as show in this picture in the green circles even though the 245 and 270 lid numbers are 6-1299 in both cases... The counterweights are smaller on the 270hp carb.so the rear air valves can move with the lower vacuum of the solid lifter engine...

I "think" I recall that the spring under the vacuumeter piston that rides off the bottom of the metering rod "T" bar had different tension for the same reason, but I haven't confirmed that...

The 61 bases for the RPO-242 PCV option had tapped bases, I don't know if non RPO carbs for the same year did or not...
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I get the angled nozzle on the 270 HP but I still don't get the "cannot see the tube" for 245 HP in NCRS guide. Basically, what do the tubes look like on a 245 HP setup? I have a set that has original "L8" brass tag date "2627S" which is 245 HP and the air-horn nozzles look just like the 270 HP.
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That's just a bad description I think..... I take it to mean that you can't look down into the straight, vertically cut off nozzles (tubes) as you can with the angle cut 270hp primaries. I wouldn't dwell on it. The NCRS documents are far from free of mistakes and vague statements...
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Great detail...Thanks!
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You might also note that the 1299 rear is drilled for choke shaft while the 1299 front will not be drilled.

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