66 without power brakes
#21
Drifting
I would not let it deter me from buying it one bit.
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Le Mans Master
Call me ***** foot. I added power brakes to both my 66 and 68 L-79 cars. I like them. I also added power steering and A/C on both cars. Jerry
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Drifting
I've had my '66 L79 4-speed since the summer of '88..... No PB and No PS. LOT's of FUN to drive. Stops on a dime. The pedal pressure required for the brakes doesn't compare to the pressure need on the clutch pedal, but I digress. Buy the car. Good Luck.
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Originally Posted by BB767;1598655704...I'd never thought of power bakes as a condom for my leg or heard power brakes described as [i
*****[/i] brakes. I have to admit, using sexual terms for brakes is a new concept to me that might take a while to fully appreciate.
Dan
#26
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You have a point, conversely - part of why I added the PB to the '63 was just how vacant that side of the firewall looked
Frankly, if I had known beforehand that they didn't make an exponential difference I might not have made the conversion... A '63 original power brake booster cost will make you do a double take...
But, to the OP's question. No, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a non-power brake car if everything else was what I desired...
66's did not have a tank sticker so I don't know if there is any other way to tell if you do an after-purchase conversion with original parts if the OP feels its needed...
Frankly, if I had known beforehand that they didn't make an exponential difference I might not have made the conversion... A '63 original power brake booster cost will make you do a double take...
But, to the OP's question. No, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a non-power brake car if everything else was what I desired...
66's did not have a tank sticker so I don't know if there is any other way to tell if you do an after-purchase conversion with original parts if the OP feels its needed...
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The combination of a smaller bore MC and using the upper pivot point on the brake pedal provides more responsive brakes (read as slightly more pedal travel providing a better feel for the road) on a non-power set up. Power may be easier to apply the brakes, but you lose some feel for the road which doesn’t matter to most people. It matters to me, so I am in the process of converting my single circuit, manual 4 wheel drum brakes to a dual circuit, manual 4 wheel disc set up.
OP, you have to go with what works for you and not worry about any tiny potential impact on resale.
OP, you have to go with what works for you and not worry about any tiny potential impact on resale.
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Melting Slicks
Pretty funny thread. Of course you don’t NEED power brakes. The car will eventually stop without them. You don’t NEED power steering or AC either. I happen to prefer all three.
Ed
Ed
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Team Owner
If using the car becomes a scary or an arduous chore - they can become garage art and degrade pretty fast...
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#32
Racer
not at all, the important thing is he quality of the body and interior and if the car is original numbers matching. Usually we do not drive the cars that much, so the power accessories are not that important. The manual brakes work really well in my opinion, but if I had a druther it would be power steering! My car is a 66 300 hp four speed manual steering manual brakes, and is a bit hard to turn at very slow no speeds
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I've driven both power and non-power assisted mid-years. My current car has manual brakes and it is as drivable and safe as any car out there. The only power feature that would make a difference for me would be steering. My first one was manual steering and power brakes, the current car has power steering and manual brakes. I like this combination much much better.
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Burning Brakes
Beltsville Shell
For those who have read Beltsville Shell: You Are What You Drive, you might remember Jeff Hughes statement from 1966 in chapter 20:
"Brakes are for sissies."
Thomas
"Brakes are for sissies."
Thomas
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Burning Brakes
Please keep up the good work.
Thomas
#38
Racer
My '66 does not have PB, and I have never felt uncomfortable driving it. I have put 10,000 miles since restoration and have had 3 PANIC stop situations. The feel is great. That said, I absolutely love the PS!
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I drove my manual-brake '67 for 12 years, and had no complaints about the brake system - we tend to get "spoiled" from our zero-effort power brakes on the new daily drivers and forget the days when we grew up without power assist. My '67 brakes were terrible when I bought the car, but that was the result of the previous owner using "race" brake pads with "race" friction coefficients; when I replaced them with $20.00/axle organic pads (as OEM), all returned to normal immediately.
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I've driven both power and non-power assisted mid-years. My current car has manual brakes and it is as drivable and safe as any car out there. The only power feature that would make a difference for me would be steering. My first one was manual steering and power brakes, the current car has power steering and manual brakes. I like this combination much much better.