kenba

Its easer to counterfeit a car than paperwork. Fake trim tags POP window & tank stickers are almost always different than real ones.
PS the machine here looks like a trim tag not a POP machine. No 2 machine fonts are the same & the one the Corvette plant used for all the POP & TRIM tags at the S. L. plant was the same ones for all the years. AO Smith had their own Trim tag machine but the POP was made at S.L.so all POP's would be alike. as I recall.

dplotkin

This machine is not unlike a machine a DMV uses to make a drivers license, not literally but in kind and deed. That is to say, there is no legitimate reason to own one (unless it can be modified to make something else) other than to make plates for the purpose of misrepresenting a car. Those who possess one and those who admire it can smile at one another and pretend "its a neat thing to have." It is as neat as a press that prints cash and about as useful.

Dan

Boyan

No its not.

68hemi

While there are certainly collectors out there for anything I would think this would be an exception. I certainly would not want to dedicate space in my garage or man cave and certainly Not in the wife’s living room. So, it will have little value to anyone unless they were going to use it and try to compete with other long time people that are already making this limited sale item.

426 Hemi

Cool purchase.

There are a lot of guys buying stuff like this, not particularly to use it but to just have it.

Heck I've always wanted a Norden bombsight!

jrs 427

Part of the never ending " what do you need, I can make it happen " crowd. The engine restampers were soon exposed for the perfect flat block pad surface now have a machine to properly restore the original scoring prior to the " authentic " stamp. Hemmings Motor News runs their ads without concern of documentation misusage. I completely understand the seller with a rare perfect original piece asking four times the current value. This is simply supply and demand. No attempt at fraud for more silver coins. If you appreciate the hobby for what it is a " replacement tag or hacked description engine identification number " will NEVER damper your commitment . Those of us with " non exotics " and no intention to enter the arena of rare will continue enjoyment of Americas only production sports car.

MOXIE62

You could not fool anyone with one of these. The patina would not be correct. If you start making them, let me know.

Powershift

Patina may or not be correct..............you can age aluminum........but if you read the book on Trim Tag Authentication by Grenning and Sinor, they state that certain irregularities are present in the characters and numbers for both the blanks and for the final stamped tag. These character/number irregularities were the result of hand made dies that were then used to make the production stamping plates. So not all machines are equipped/capable of making tags with these same irregularities...........in fact only a few were so equipped. That is how to tell an original from a reproduction.

Supposedly there were two machines at the St Louis Plant that were used for the Corvettes. AOS tags are different spaced, so AOS may have had a couple of machines as well. But apparently all the blanks were made at one location on identical machines or a single machine......since all the blanks are identical. Not certain how many other machines shared the same stamping plates made from the original hand made dies.

FWIW.

Larry

JohnZ

When I was a kid, our family insurance agency had an Addressograph-Multigraph machine just like that in the break area, to make plates for another machine that addressed flat mailing boxes that held 12 books of Hinckley Agency, Inc. matches; when I went to the office every couple of months to go to Vannelli's for lunch with my Dad, it was my job to run the flat boxes through the imprinting machine, stuff the boxes with cellophane 12-packs of matches, and fill big cardboard boxes to take to the post office on the way to lunch with Dad. The secretaries who kept track of the customers made the steel Addressograph imprinting plates. At lunch, Dad had oysters and (several) martinis and I had a boat of Vannelli's great spaghetti.

leif.anderson93

John,
Isn't it amazing how something as simple as a picture can bring back such vivid memories? Something tells me that spaghetti was pretty darn good!

ricks327

John,
Vannelli's rings a bell but where was it?

provette67

Like I said not sure that this is rare desirable item

kenba

I agree. Some don't want facts to get in the way of what they think.

JohnZ

East side of Woodward between 6 and 7 Mile Road.

ricks327

Okay, I had a Aunt & Uncle that lived on Brentwood, 1st block south of 7 Mile. Not a good neighborhood today.

JohnZ

Wasn't a great one in the 50's either (had a Cyclone fenced-in parking lot with a security guard then), but the food was outstanding.

Mailbu Beach

The St.Louis Corvette Plant machines were sold at open auction when the plant closed. The auction was advertised on St.Louis radio The Corvette Plant had two machines, each machine had its own unique stamping characteristics. I interviewed the guy that stamped the Corvette plates in the 60’s ( Ray Barnes ). Not sure how many machines were at the Chevrolet plant or the truck plant.

68hemi

So who bought the two machines?

kenba

Would they need 3 embossing machines? one for VIN #'S one for trim tags & one for the POP'S ? From what you say whoever bought the machines can make perfect tags that were bought at the auction. HUMM

Nowhere Man

seeing how GM stop making POP in 72 why would they keep it around any longer. The trim tag styles changed after 67 did the same machine do both? The vin tag changed too and had diffreant font was it the same throughout the years? And seeing how every GM plant producing cars and trucks had the same machines and I would think multiply ones where they all the same.