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Old 02-21-2019, 03:03 PM
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I had posted earlier this week trying to gain some insight into what year C2 and ballpark price range to look into....
Well, of course I found one...
'65 Coupe, black/black laquer, 327/365 4 speed; 30008 miles. believe it to be a numbers car.

The first person I asked seems willing to buy my LS project Scout ii for a decent-ish price and the wheels are in motion to go inspect the '65
The seller has had tons of corvettes and maintains a nice collection of other cars now as I understand.

Just needed to hear one more time...how much do you guys really enjoy the C2 (coupe)
I have 3 kids 12,10,7; But I still have another Scout (a slow diesel) for us; but the reality is we often divide and conquer.
My Scout guru advised that the C2 is fun for a bit, but that will wear off quick? He bases his experience from growing up around them, wrenching on them some and to him I guess they aren't that special....

So I am curious,
when do you guys enjoy (driving I assume) your C2 the most???
Out to dinner with the wife (now it seems Uber is about as easy as driving), special occasions??, drive to your Country Club of choice?
Car shows?, Cars and Coffee?

I am trying to get a handle on the pleasure it will bring, other than looking at it in the garage (and trying to not let bicycles scratch it)
Any insight appreciated....

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Originally Posted by scubadds
My Scout guru advised that the C2 is fun for a bit, but that will wear off quick? He bases his experience from growing up around them, wrenching on them some and to him I guess they aren't that special....

I am trying to get a handle on the pleasure it will bring, other than looking at it in the garage (and trying to not let bicycles scratch it)
Any insight appreciated....
Your Scout guru is possibly suffering from some form of mental illness; I can't even conceive of the head space where a Sting Ray is not special. I drive my 67 frequently to the coast for coffee, or a couple of days in Monterey, to Yosemite, car guy meet ups, participate in autocross, etc.; anything but to the mall. I've taken it on thousands-of-mile trips around the West. I've owned 21 of these things over the decades, and you'd think I'd take them for granted by now at some level, but I still go out to the garage to gaze at it and smile, run my hands over the compound curves of its flanks, admire the compact simplicity and goodness of the small-block, the perfection of the cockpit, the ....... well, you get the idea. The act of viewing the road across that inviting hood, set between the perfectly peaked fender tops, while swaddled in the preternaturally satisfying interior, transports you to a state somewhere between sexual satisfaction and pleasant inebriation. Cars will never again be so hard-wired to the pleasure center of the car-guy brain as this one, or be such a joy to behold and enjoy. Anyone used to Scout levels of satisfaction must be careful when taking possession of a Sting Ray, lest his head explode upon cranking it up.

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My wife and I often take our C2 to breakfast on Sunday mornings. We also drive it to the golf course when playing (our clubs are stored there, so no issues with cargo space) or showing up for an event. We also just go for drives around town. We get a lot of enjoyment out of that.
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Every time I drive one either coupe or convertible it always puts a smile on my face. But to be practical your family of five won’t fit. How much time can you get away from them to enjoy it. Or will having a car with a back seat be more useful Or don’t your kids care about old cars. Answer that and your have your answer
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I own both a 57 and a 65 and I alternate driving them both and drive one or the other daily. I also have a pick up truck that I drive if the weather is bad but that is not often where I live. I seldom drive either Corvette to the grocery store but nearly every where else. I owned a C2 consistently over 30 years and sometimes had two at the same time. After 30 years I decided it was time for a change and had Mopar muscle for 10 years but now have come back to Corvettes. The 65 is my favorite to DRIVE but the 57 gets more attention from everyone. The 65 coupe gets it's share as well. From this I think you can see I have not tired of driving one.
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Originally Posted by scubadds
My Scout guru advised that the C2 is fun for a bit, but that will wear off quick? He bases his experience from growing up around them, wrenching on them some and to him I guess they aren't that special....
I think he has them mixed up.
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I just drove my split window to Lakeland NCRS show - 1-1/2 hours down and 2 hours back at speeds up to 85MPH.
The 63 is the most primitive of the midyears with all drum brakes and the most primitive suspension of the breed...

It was a hoot... Comfortable and nimble - the aftermarket A/C helps tremendously...
Lakeland is cursed - it rained all morning and I just finished a 2 hour general "clean up" of the car - which I also enjoy...
Talk to people that drive them and are not just remembering something from 60 years ago..

When I plop down in the seat and look down the hood at the humped up fenders and the center stinger I know there is nothing on average I'll be beside on the road that is nearly as inspiring to pilot.

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Seems that geographical location has to play a part in the decision to own a C2;
I could imagine it perfect for California type weather (but without the traffic)

I live in Wilmington, NC; near a Country club area; The beach and work are 8 miles away; Our historic downtown area is 3-4 miles away;

It seems more the rarity that we are all in the car at once; (I had to invent a time for us all to ride in the Scout ii when I got it a few months back)
We have two other (new and new-ish) Land Cruisers for school drop off and soccer carpool and games...
Tonight we will meet at the inlaws for dinner and one kid has gymnastics; so we arrive and leave in two different cars... I am sure she would love to ride in a C2 tonight (75 degrees today in mid February)

My older son does enjoy older cars, my middle...well he wants an Audi R8, but likes cars enough...
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I love driving my 65 roadster. I’ve had it for 9 years and it always is a great feeling when I take it out. I live in Maryland so I’m very limited in the Winter. When the weather breaks, I drive it almost every weekend. I have a 5 and 3 year old who also love it. I also enjoy working on it. I’m not a mechanic, but I’ve completed projects mostly by reading old threads on the forum.
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Your "Guru" who said that enjoying a C2 will wear off quickly is sadly mistaken. I've had my 65 for 48 years, and every time I drive it feels just like the day I bought it.
I drive it frequently for the sheer pleasure of driving.

NO Regrets here, ever.
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I just bought a 63. I have a 68 corvette t-top from my aunt who passed away, a 62 Daimler, LS1 Pontiac convert tempest, 57 cadillac and a 84 Alfa Rameo Spider.(anybody want this one?) My point is I have updated old cars, many types of old cars and my favorite is driving the 63.(327/4spd) It is like a go cart. It is loud, shifts are hard and it feels like you are driving a race car. Is it as fast as my cts-v or as refine? No ...but the feeling of driving that car is awesome. I can't imagine not driving it or it getting "OLD" I have two high school kids and I drive them in it as much as possible. They love it. They love the special feeling and the thumbs up from everybody else on the road. Yes I have new cars that I drive on long trips, and when it is storming, but everything else I drive one of my classics. My 63 is not original (motor is replacement block) so I plan upgrades in the future. My daughter likes it enough to where she didn't complain when she burnt her legs on the side pipe!! Good luck and I don't think you would regret making the purchase.
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I drive it once or twice a week, depending on the weather. My best drive is a 75 mile trip along the ocean and back home. I drive to the supermarket sometimes and park at the back of the lot. Often there is someone looking at it when I return.

Cars and Coffee a few times per year. No car shows.
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(My posts seem to be delayed, sorry if I double tap; but I submitted a response and its not there 30 minutes later)

I think geographic location plays a big role...Today It is 75 degrees ( mid February ) and sunny;

I am in Wilmington, NC - 8 miles from the beach; (with a ton of stoplights in between);

Our family seems to travel in two cars often; as the kids each have events they participate in (cheer, soccer, football etc)
I figure there will be plenty of times to take each child out for their own ride when we can.....
We have two other Land Cruisers, and we still have a Scout ii

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I drive a tractor -esque '61 Corvette, and it's so much fun I've been ignoring my two classic GTO's, which by the way are even more fun now than they were almost 40 years ago when I got 'em. I can't imagine getting 'bored' with any vintage performance car. You actually have to DRIVE them. No cupholders, no bluetooth, no BS. Just a stick shift and a big American V8. As good as it gets!
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I drive a tractor -esque '61 Corvette, and it's so much fun I've been ignoring my two classic GTO's, which by the way are even more fun now than they were almost 40 years ago when I got 'em. I can't imagine getting 'bored' with any vintage performance car. You actually have to DRIVE them. No cupholders, no bluetooth, no BS. Just a stick shift and a big American V8. As good as it gets!
Nope, I have both in my 65. Upgraded original radio and it has hands free phone option too. Double cup holder fits in the ash tray hole.


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Swap it over to automatic and install ABS brakes and a back-up camera, and you'll have it nailed!!!
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Originally Posted by capevettes
Your "Guru" who said that enjoying a C2 will wear off quickly is sadly mistaken. I've had my 65 for 48 years, and every time I drive it feels just like the day I bought it.
I drive it frequently for the sheer pleasure of driving.

NO Regrets here, ever.
This! I have had my 67 since 71 - it NEVER gets old or boring!
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Swap it over to automatic and install ABS brakes and a back-up camera, and you'll have it nailed!!!
Ha Ha. The above is about as luxurious as I want. If it wasn’t just my winter car I would add A/C though.

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Our '66 convertible has almost completely replaced our Harleys (we both ride). You've decided on a coupe, but driving topless is like riding bikes without helmets, except we talk (somewhat.... sidepipes), she smiles a lot, she was totally unprepared for becoming a celebrity EVERYWHERE whether moving or getting gas and just inventing destinations. I'm certain if I'd a bought a Ferrari (which could have been way cheaper) there wouldn't be just everyone, moms with kids, old guys, etc come up and chat. I'd like to have a coupe to do track day type stuff. But I'm certain the old couple on a date part of it wouldn't be as endearing if she wasn't able to do her best Grace Kelly hair in the wind imitation. Wherever you go you are a parade with folks waving. It's more than driving an old performance car. It's having a town cop chase you in traffic so he can get beside you at the next light to compliment you on your car. And... you looking at him and asking if he wants to race.... both being hugely amused. Mine's in a winter hibernation bubble, but see her several times a day and dang.... every time I can't just walk past it. It's just a joy to look at.

A C2 won't do that for everyone.... but it just might for you also. My only 2 cents is to poll your wife and kids about vert vs coupe. Topless may be more memorable, special, to the wife and kids. The really cool thing is... if it doesn't turn your crank sell it for even or maybe pocket some. Bet you can't do that with a bass boat. Cheers
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I got pulled over in the 63 coming home through the small town of Winter Garden here...

By a GOLF CART!

The guy hailed me down and hauled over to the roadside and we talked for 20 minutes and he took pictures of the car from all angles and some with his wife in the driver's seat...

A new friend...that won't happen much in your Nissan Altima...
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Originally Posted by scubadds
My Scout guru advised that the C2 is fun for a bit, but that will wear off quick? He bases his experience from growing up around them, wrenching on them some and to him I guess they aren't that special....

I am trying to get a handle on the pleasure it will bring, other than looking at it in the garage (and trying to not let bicycles scratch it)
Any insight appreciated....
Your Scout guru is possibly suffering from some form of mental illness; I can't even conceive of the head space where a Sting Ray is not special. I drive my 67 frequently to the coast for coffee, or a couple of days in Monterey, to Yosemite, car guy meet ups, participate in autocross, etc.; anything but to the mall. I've taken it on thousands-of-mile trips around the West. I've owned 21 of these things over the decades, and you'd think I'd take them for granted by now at some level, but I still go out to the garage to gaze at it and smile, run my hands over the compound curves of its flanks, admire the compact simplicity and goodness of the small-block, the perfection of the cockpit, the ....... well, you get the idea. The act of viewing the road across that inviting hood, set between the perfectly peaked fender tops, while swaddled in the preternaturally satisfying interior, transports you to a state somewhere between sexual satisfaction and pleasant inebriation. Cars will never again be so hard-wired to the pleasure center of the car-guy brain as this one, or be such a joy to behold and enjoy. Anyone used to Scout levels of satisfaction must be careful when taking possession of a Sting Ray, lest his head explode upon cranking it up.

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