Frankie the Fink

Wow, talk about being the bearer of bad news.....

If somebody without your credentials said that the owner might have brushed it off but coming from you that must have been devastating.....(UNLESS he already knew of course)...

Tyler Townsley

I know of a 55 that was created using a valid 55 to create the glass used to recreate the car, the vin tag was good. It has been flight judged with a TF. One could use a 54 to create a 53 or a 55 if you have a good vin tag.

MikeM

It can get really expensive just so you can thump your chest and let everyone see how proud of yourself you are.

Frankie the Fink

News flash - the guy prob cares more about:

a) the fact that he was duped by not exercising due diligence
b) the embarrassment of finding out publicly, and from an indisputable source, and,
c) the heartache of finding out he really doesn't have an original, iconic piece of automotive history

It ain't always about the money..

Dan Hampton

In the end, however, it is always about the money. Bruised ego eventually heal up.....

Frankie the Fink

If hobbies were all about money nobody would own a classic car or a boat of ANY vintage...

I have a $50,000 classic Corvette but:

a) I want to buy the cheapest Walmart oil I can find, I'll strain it through a hanky before I use it to get the big chunks out
b) I don't want to spend $120 for an electronic points conversion, I'd rather cut my fingers to shreds on shielding every so often instead
c) I'm still looking for that $,1500 paint job from "Fisheye Fred"
d) I found radials from the "Run Funny" company for $28 each..
e) I can get C2 rubber windshield molding from Botswana 20% cheaper than Corvette Rubber - I'll just pound on the stainless trim until it lays down flat

I get so tired of it...

[/rant]

MikeM

I think you have it backwards but thanks anyway!.

tuxnharley

First world problems- oh my!

Factoid

I always wondered why it wouldn’t be judged and entered into the official record as counterfeit including everything that is wrong? Might help someone else out in the future.

Wasn’t it Penske who said something to the effect of, “the factory only made six and all twelve of them are here.”?

GTOguy

I agree with this 100%. Thank God I only have to impress Mike M. Got a non-matching 10 footer that runs great and money in the bank! Easy Peasy.

tuxnharley

I would be curious as to the rationale for making such a car/owner stay until “the end of the day”. Certainly safety should be paramount and the owner should not be allowed to just drive off in a huff endangering others, but it would seem that some arrangement could be made for departure once they are informed that they will not be judged.

Otherwise keeping them until the end of the day just seems like adding injury to insult, so to speak.

What am I missing here?

Nowhere Man

the cars info and owner goes back to NCRS. But I don’t think it’s public record unless it happens at a National where results are published.

rsinor

Actually leaving at the end of the day allows the owner to leave without creating a big scene and a bunch of questions about why did he leave, NCRS does not allow cars to move after the judging starts and if one did it would create quite a conversation, NCRS never broadcast these type of things or tried to make it obvious there was an issue, leaving at the end of the day served two purposes it was safer and it did not draw attention to the owner or the car.

MikeM

It's called "public humiliation". Line them up in a public place and let everyone know who is the bad boy. Back in .school, the Principal had what we called the mourners bench sitting in the hall outside his office. Everyone walking by knew why people were sitting there. I am sure some here can vividly recall your own experience with the public seating arrangement.

In the old days, they used to lock you down on the public square in the pillory.

GTOguy

Maybe the NCRS shows should have a pillory or two.....when a discrepancy with a car is found, it's off to the stocks with the owner!

Vettrocious

What public humiliation? As Roy states above, I'm sure the judges didn't put up a neon letter "A" near his car, or go around telling all the owners and such. All the guy had to do was leave the floor, not say anything to anyone, then come back later to get his car, after everyone had left. No one would have noticed.

MikeM

But everyone would notice there was no judging done on it or no blue ribbon stuck on the windshield.

AZDoug

Everybody gets a blue ribbon? Like in second grade? Everybody is a winner?

Doug

MikeM

Many put a car on the judging field and 80/90% of the physical parts/material content of that car is replacement, fake, or otherwise not original to production and he thinks he has something special?

tuxnharley

Full disclosure: I am not NCRS and have zero experience with such events.

I am just relating to one of my pet peeves regarding local club shows where they expect you to stay til 5 pm or so I order to attempt to generate more business for the vendors/local merchants etc. Typically that is long after all awards have been passed out etc.

Most folks don’t like being “held hostage” for several hours for no productive use of their time.

So why not just let the entrant declare a family emergency and leave at an appropriate time? It’s not like he is likely to see those folks again anytime soon - at least not with that disqualified car!

OTOH, if that is all spelled out in the entry rules up front then so be it. If you don’t like the rules don’t play the game!