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I would like to buy and believe in this product but I’m a born skeptic. I googled this product and there were reports that it does NOT put out a fire. Don’t know what kind. The two videos I saw were Jay Leno who doesn’t endorse the product and doesn’t show it putting out a fire. The other shows it putting out a fire, again not sure what type, but it’s put on by Element.
I’m leery of a product produced in Italy and sold in Canada without any testing being done in the U.S.
Does anyone know if this actually works or not?
And you should be, not sure who to trust anymore as Kidde has had several recalls... I'll keep my Halon in the Corvette, Halitron is good with no residue but not as effective by weight.
Figure I'll put the Element 50 in the jet ski and not worry about it...if that catches fire I'll swim through the alligators to get away from it...
I have a Halon in the 57, and a half dozen or so Kiddes in the house and other cars.
I plan to get at least a couple of the Elements. Reading about them last night, two items struck me. One, you don't use these in the conventional manner of spraying at the base of the fire, you 'fog in' the fire by clouding around it. Second, there is likely to be some residue (and possibly some etching), especially at the beginning because of the burning cardboard tube. It was recommended that when you initially light it off, that you point it away from the object you're saving.
I have a Halon in the 57, and a half dozen or so Kiddes in the house and other cars.
I plan to get at least a couple of the Elements. Reading about them last night, two items struck me. One, you don't use these in the conventional manner of spraying at the base of the fire, you 'fog in' the fire by clouding around it. Second, there is likely to be some residue (and possibly some etching), especially at the beginning because of the burning cardboard tube. It was recommended that when you initially light it off, that you point it away from the object you're saving.
Lots of discussion at the Porsche forum.
Im not a member of the Porsche forum. What are they saying about this extinguisher, good or bad?
I'm not a member either. Just Google Element fire extinguisher, then go to the Porsche Forum. I think its the PCA site, Porsche Club of America.
But in short, they like it. Effectiveness and small size are their requirements, just like us.
Close to the fire is right, you’ll never be able to get to it!
Unless that extinguisher is intended for those times when the hood is open and you're standing by it when the fire starts, I'm not a fan of that location either. For home, boat and RV applications I always put my extinguishers near an escape route. That gives me the opportunity to decide whether to stay and fight the fire or just get the heck out while I'm headed in that direction.
Here is the best place to keep your fire extinguisher. It is right where you need it and close to the fire.
This is very dangerous advice. I'm surprised that anyone with supposed experience would suggest such a mounting location. One should not have to fight one's way through a fire to reach an extinguisher.
I got my Element 50 fire extinguisher yesterday. Its about the size and weight of an old road flare...prob weights less in fact.
Seems a bit flimsy to do all that is claimed...
Not sure I'm ready to abandon my Corvette's steel tank Halon quite yet though.
Maybe carry the Element 50 as a spare or keep it in the Tundra...
I got my Element 50 fire extinguisher yesterday. Its about the size and weight of an old road flare...prob weights less in fact.
Seems a bit flimsy to do all that is claimed...
Not sure I'm ready to abandon my Corvette's steel tank Halon quite yet though.
Maybe carry the Element 50 as a spare or keep it in the Tundra...
What is the storage recommendation of these fire extinguishers? When it is 90 outside and with the windows closed it can get dangerously hot inside a car.
"The temperature inside a car parked in direct sunlight can quickly climb to between 130 to 172." ”Nov 12, 2015"
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That's my 67. I used the extinguisher to put out a carb fire in a friend's 61 then got the unit recharged. I also carry an Element 50 in the car and have one in my garage and kitchen; they last about 50 minutes compared to 15-20 seconds for regular extinguishers, and they leave no residue at all. Can't be too careful.
That's my 67. I used the extinguisher to put out a carb fire in a friend's 61 then got the unit recharged. I also carry an Element 50 in the car and have one in my garage and kitchen; they last about 50 minutes compared to 15-20 seconds for regular extinguishers, and they leave no residue at all. Can't be too careful.
What is the storage recommendation of these fire extinguishers? When it is 90 outside and with the windows closed it can get dangerously hot inside a car.
"The temperature inside a car parked in direct sunlight can quickly climb to between 130 to 172." ”Nov 12, 2015"
Works from -140*F to +320*F, if you believe the FAQ page on their web site..
My car has been in the family since new... No way I'm standing by and watching it burn.
Not sure if the 57 glovebox is the same.. but I found a small unit (chemical, non Halon) to fit in there.
This happened outside my office window last week... a good reminder.
Good stuff - but at some point your life is worth more than a damn car...
Years ago at a cheerleading event for my daughter I had to keep a soccer Mom from trying to reenter her burning minivan to retrieve her purse..
The car was seconds from being fully involved and I actually had to block the woman physically - some peoples' reactions in an emergency are unreal...
You raise a valid point... but I would never risk life.
But like that photo of the truck.... the truck was 'low smoldering' for about 10 minutes.. Fire department took about 15 to arrive.
By then it was too late... but there was plenty of time... the guy just stood and watched it.
Fire Dept. arrived and parked the truck behind the burning vehicle... and within 10 seconds of that, it started rolling, and actually hit the fire truck.
If they hadn't been there, it would have rolled into a busy intersection... on fire!
The truck actually rolled over the hoses as they were pulling them out.. It was a bit of a circus act for a minute there.
They got it out and no one was hurt. But it shows how quickly things can get out of hand.
It's actually a AAA rescue truck that burned.
I got my Element 50 fire extinguisher yesterday. Its about the size and weight of an old road flare...prob weights less in fact.
Seems a bit flimsy to do all that is claimed...
Not sure I'm ready to abandon my Corvette's steel tank Halon quite yet though.
Maybe carry the Element 50 as a spare or keep it in the Tundra...
Frankie, I think you should try out your Element and then tell us if it works or not. You know, for the good of the forum!
03-08-2019, 09:40 AM
