[C1] Extreme Gas Smell....Help!
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Extreme Gas Smell....Help!
I know this has been kicked around before, but I can't locate any of the threads. I have a new car (to me) and it wreaks of gas. Off the transport driven and into the garage and it smells like an open bucket of gas for 24 hours and then started to dissipate. Drove it last night for the 1st real drive and filled up the tank (or close), immediately had a strong smell of gas in the cabin that was not there before. Put it in our attached heated garage and the gas smell is so strong we're having to open windows in the garage and it still smells strong if you go out there.
Had a leaking carburetor (everywhere) on my last 62 and after getting it OH'd most of the smell went away, but this leak was obvious because of gasoline residue and puddles on the intake. Fuel pump was also seeping on that car (wet gaskets) and after replacing it all gas smells went away.
This car has no puddles on the intake and the fuel pump is dry, so it seems to be coming with the tank area, especially with the strong immediate smell in the cabin after filling it up.
What should I check? Are there any common locations that cause this problem. I've never played in this area.
Filler cap is not vented, but I think on 62's it's not supposed to be, although I changed to vented cap on the other car.
Car has been a hangar queen for the past 2 years and maybe driven 25-35 miles in that period, so I was expecting some dried gaskets and seals, but this goes way beyond anything I anticipated. Nothing on the floor. I'll put it on the lift tomorrow and see if there is anything wet on the bottom of the tank area.
Any experiences or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Butch
Had a leaking carburetor (everywhere) on my last 62 and after getting it OH'd most of the smell went away, but this leak was obvious because of gasoline residue and puddles on the intake. Fuel pump was also seeping on that car (wet gaskets) and after replacing it all gas smells went away.
This car has no puddles on the intake and the fuel pump is dry, so it seems to be coming with the tank area, especially with the strong immediate smell in the cabin after filling it up.
What should I check? Are there any common locations that cause this problem. I've never played in this area.
Filler cap is not vented, but I think on 62's it's not supposed to be, although I changed to vented cap on the other car.
Car has been a hangar queen for the past 2 years and maybe driven 25-35 miles in that period, so I was expecting some dried gaskets and seals, but this goes way beyond anything I anticipated. Nothing on the floor. I'll put it on the lift tomorrow and see if there is anything wet on the bottom of the tank area.
Any experiences or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Butch
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My guess is that your fuel pump needs to be replaced. I've had the same problem. I've experienced leaking carbs (tri-power 67) and the fuel smell was nothing like the slowly leaking fuel pump.
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I had the same issue until I replaced the cracked rubber filler hose that connects to the tank. Open up the gas tank cover and inspect this hose. It's a bit of a tug-of-war to replace but it's doable without removing the tank.
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A filler hose leak is right behind the driver then down to the seat bottom...............I agree....Start there.
You will have to gain access to your fuel tank and then access to your filler hose and clamps....If you have to replace it, loosen the tank side filler hose clamp then remove the hose from the tank. (I had to cut mine, the tank side clamp was unable to be loosened) Push the filler pipe toward the tank. That will expose the filler pipe side clamp for removal. In my case, the grommet came out of position in the process...Remember, after installing the new filler hose, tighten the filler pipe side clamp real well prior to pushing outboard through the filler hole. That was an issue for me when replacing my tank a few months ago........Other's may have a better idea.....if it is the filler hose or the connection....MEMORY is going!!
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Filler hose and the vent/overflow hose...Make sure the filler hose clamps are on straight and go back an hour later and tighten them again before putting the tank cover back on. It a small hand, short screwdriver job. You want a non-vented gas cap, also.
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Some of the repro metal filler necks in the gas tank filler cavity years ago had problems at the seam...
Wipe around the seam with lacquer thinner around the outside and then go around it with a fingertip full of JB-Weld and let it dry..
Also make sure you're running a NON-vented gas cap.
The gas fill cavity should have a hose draining out of it attached to a bib on the backside - its missing on a lot of cars....feel around up behind the cavity and see if the hose is there. Its meant to drain fuel from overfilling the tank. Make sure that drain is not glassed over (I've seen that too!) or clogged with crud.
Finally - make sure your gas tank cover lid has the sealing putty around its edges - I prefer to use that gray closed cell insulation with one sticky side instead - less mess...
More than you EVER wanted to know about C1 fuel smells:
http://www.socalsacc.com/c1-fuel-tan...chip-werstein/
One caveat to that excellent article - you CAN change the rubber filler neck hose with the tank in the car - its no fun but I've done it..
There are three vent holes through the fiberglass in the gas tank well visible from under the car - make sure some dolt hasn't glassed over those (yes, I've seen it) so you're not driving a bomb around..
If all else fails carry two of these to apply to the driver and passengers nose while driving:
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Great answers and I thank you all very much. I'm just amazed how loud the smell is. I had the car on a lift during inspection and saw the bottom of the tank (looks shiny and new through at least two large 3-4" holes in the bottom of the bay), so I don't think they were glassed over. Funny thing, never got the smell during the test drive, but there was never more than 5 gallons in it, so maybe it takes more fuel to trigger this event. We actually ran out of gas a few miles from the selling dealer and had to add gas (gauge still showed 3/8th's tank) on the side of the road. So, maybe they new something about filling it up they didn't mention. Sounds pretty straight forward so I'll tackle it tomorrow.
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Review this feature article I wrote on how to get rid of the C1 "Gas Smell" - do as it indicates and you will understand where the leaks start and how to avoid having to deal with them.
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No one knows more about solving issues with old Corvettes than John Z. Once you've read his article and understand the possible issues present, you might try a simple solution that takes about 10 minutes if you have the materials. On several of my solid axle Corvettes I've solved this issue by doubling the gasket on the inside of the gas cap once you know you have the right cap. I got some gasket material at the parts store and made my own.
It may or may not solve the problem, but it's cheap, easy, and quick. And it's worked every time I tried it.
It may or may not solve the problem, but it's cheap, easy, and quick. And it's worked every time I tried it.
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Finding the right cap and doubling the gasket worked for me, but it still stinks if I fill it to the top (once in awhile I forget) - it goes away after I drive off a gallon (and put my garage fan on with the door open overnight).
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Interesting note. I was going to pull the tank cover today (doesn't look like its been off since the restoration), but the smell went away yesterday after I took it on its maiden drive. Only 15-20 miles (really strong in the cabin the entire time), but the only smell in the garage last night was very light, more like a minor seeping carburetor. I'm not used to this type of luck with my corvettes, as the last one was possessed and almost made me swear off vettes.
I will read the article and see where it tells me to look.
Butch
I will read the article and see where it tells me to look.
Butch
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What a great article from John. It seems like it may be prudent to cross check all parts of the fuel system using John’s article as a guide. To assume may not be the best route to take when dealing with gasoline.
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Extreme Gas Smell....Help! I usually have that same problem when my girl friend rides with me in the passenger's seat. I than have to crank the window down on my side of the Corvette.
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Any reason for NOT replacing the paper gasket in my "FE" cap with a rubber gasket....seems to me that would really seal the tank at the filler.
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I suppose that could work as long as the rubber doesn’t degrade from gasoline or ethanol, and if it can handle all of the on and off. I like the paper ones, they don’t seem to have any problem staying in great shape.
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