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Old 06-23-2019, 06:07 PM
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Default Beautiful day for a drive until I shifted into 3rd.....

....then the clutch petal went to the floor. Cruising down the road at about 45 mph in third and no clutch. Thought about trying to limp home but soon realized the minute I stop I am done.
So I finally pulled onto a side street to get out of traffic and take a look. My first thought was the clutch petal pivot pin sheared as had happened to other forum members but that looked perfect. So I popped the hood. The fricken ball stud at the end of the cross shaft sheared off in the block. No roadside fix for this.
Haggerty to the rescue.
Now I got to figure out how to get it out. Any ideas ??
Has anyone else had this happen?

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06-23-2019, 07:33 PM
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Had that exact thing happen. Drilled what was left of it in the block and used an easy out.

We need to send you to drive it without a clutch school. You can get home and your starter will fire the motor in first gear so you can start from a dead stop. Once moving, the trans will shift gears when the wheel speed matches the engine speed in any gear.
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Didn’t have ball stud shear, but had pedal go to floor on my 57 and found this - weld broke at z bar! Also got to take the tow of shame home. Hopefully, you can remove ball stud with an easy-out without too much pain. Good luck.

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Had that exact thing happen. Drilled what was left of it in the block and used an easy out.

We need to send you to drive it without a clutch school. You can get home and your starter will fire the motor in first gear so you can start from a dead stop. Once moving, the trans will shift gears when the wheel speed matches the engine speed in any gear.
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Old 06-23-2019, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Avispa
Had that exact thing happen. Drilled what was left of it in the block and used an easy out.

We need to send you to drive it without a clutch school. You can get home and your starter will fire the motor in first gear so you can start from a dead stop. Once moving, the trans will shift gears when the wheel speed matches the engine speed in any gear.
Yep. BTDT, once when the clutch cable on my Corvair broke and once more when a pin on my '63's clutch linkage sheared. Both times I was in stop/go traffic.

Both times I started the engine in 1st gear and matched revs to change gears.

The secret, if there is one, is just to be smooth and deliberate with the gear changes.

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You may be surprised at how easy it comes out assuming no one used loctite on it. It doesn’t bottom out when you torque it in place, it torques to a friction fit on the flange meaning that when the flange snaps off the threaded part is loose. Good luck!
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I lost my clutch in Jacksonville Florida in my 35' diesel motor home and drove all the way home to Ma. without a clutch. I even took a wrong turn and ended up in the Washington mall and got thru at noon without hitting one single stop light.

At one point I hit long stop and go traffic at an accident and I stopped and walked a mile up to explain my problem to the police officer that was directing traffic and he told me to drive up the break down lane and he stopped the traffic to let me in.
The stars were aligned for me on that trip!
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Old 06-23-2019, 08:11 PM
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Yep. Flat shifting is not that difficult with a synchromesh transmission. Have done it when clutch failed and to demonstrate it to people without the knowledge.
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I have seen you gorgeous Corvette in person at Carlisle and while the 1st couple of attempts at shifting without stepping on the clutch is a bit un nerving it's really not that difficult.
Under the circumstances you made the right move taking advantage of your Hagerty Policy.
Good luck getting it repaired. Hopefully things will go smooth.
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One of the few failures I've experienced with all the Ferraris I've owned occurred when the clutch cable broke on my 330GTC when I lived in Canfield, Ohio. Knew the no-clutch drill and drove on home, ordered a cable, and was back on the road before the next weekend.

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Factoid is right , the threads are usually loose in the block. I used an old dental pick with a sharp point when mine broke . Took less than 5 minute to replace , good luck.
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Angle drill with a 1/4" reverse drill bit
I like the dental pick idea also
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Originally Posted by BADBIRDCAGE
Yep. Flat shifting is not that difficult with a synchromesh transmission. Have done it when clutch failed and to demonstrate it to people without the knowledge.
Didn’t know you could do that with a synchromesh transmission, we were doing it with a ‘39 Ford non-synchro tranny back in the day.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
One of the few failures I've experienced with all the Ferraris I've owned occurred when the clutch cable broke on my 330GTC when I lived in Canfield, Ohio. Knew the no-clutch drill and drove on home, ordered a cable, and was back on the road before the next weekend.
Absolutely beautiful car!
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I have driven less clutch before in a stock 4 speed. My car has a Tremec TKO 600 and a modified engine. I tried to start the car in first and it bucked and stalled. I didn't want to have to stop in traffic and have a bigger problem.
Thanks for the suggestions on getting it out. I will look at it this morning.
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Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver
Didn’t know you could do that with a synchromesh transmission, we were doing it with a ‘39 Ford non-synchro tranny back in the day.
More difficult with non synchro but not impossible, as you are aware.
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Any idea why the ball stud sheared off? Was it original, or a replacement? How old was it?
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Which pressure plate (clutch) are you using?
I have destroyed "Z" before but not a pivot ball

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Originally Posted by BADBIRDCAGE
More difficult with non synchro but not impossible, as you are aware.
Originally Posted by Dad's '66 427
Any idea why the ball stud sheared off? Was it original, or a replacement? How old was it?
I was wondering what caused it to break myself. I am suspecting a defect. I’ll let you know.
I think it is an original that we used when I installed the new motor but not sure. Loctite was used when installed so that makes it a little more difficult to remove.
The engine was installed in 2012.
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Inquiring minds would like to know...… I just got a 'rebuild kit' that has new ball studs.....
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Check your motor and transmission mount(s). If the engine shifts, it could snap the ball stud. Glad you got out of the mess without any major damage. Jerry


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