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Old 07-10-2019, 07:22 PM
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http://www.code-enforcement.saccount.../Vehicles.aspx sect 9 and 10.

I guess this means no more restore, modify or repair your own Corvette in your home garage.Other than brake shoes and points and plug changes. I saw on another forum some guy was fined $433 for working on his car.

I wonder how long until the rest of CA rules likewise?

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I spent my entire career (Fire Department), in Sacramento County. The City of Rancho Cordova, and Citrus Heights were also in our jurisdiction, both of which are in Sacramento County . The size of our Department is a population of over 745,000 citizens, with a geographical area that is close to 360 square miles.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that there are areas where Government Employees would/will push this to the furthest extent possible, while at the same time there are areas that it will never be enforced, simply because most Government Employees wouldn't venture into the neighborhoods. And if you happen to live in a decent area, don't think for a second that they will not go after the home hobbyist. They'll simply do so stating that the law applies to everybody, regardless of your objective.

Unfortunately, many of you hear about the crazy laws/policies in the State. Just when you think they can't get any crazier, those in charge seem to make a game of who can top one another.

The Bay Area (San Francisco), makes a big deal about plastic straws, and effectively places a ban on them. Yet the same area is full of homeless who defecate at will (in the open sidewalks), and the City offers drug addicts a place to shoot up with plastic syringes. And the plastic syringes are found, having been discarded everywhere throughout the City. But by gosh.....we're gonna outlaw those plastic straws!

Our illustrious Governor (Newsome), just signed into law providing health insurance to all illegals under the age of 26, yet will fine the citizens if they do not purchase health insurance. And don't forget to pay your deductible (unless you're an illegal).

Need to pay for uninsured motorists on your policy, because quite frankly, the likelihood of getting into an accident with an uninsured motorist is pretty high.

Firearms.....you shouldn't have the right to own firearms, but yet we'll reduce the theft of a firearm (less than a value of $900.00), to a misdemeanor. Simply because, you know, the criminals are just trying to get by, so you don't want to charge them with a felony should they steal a firearm. Besides, if you happen to be a working individual, who works for a living, pays taxes and so forth, you must be one of the "privileged" individuals who had the ability to work for a living, instead of getting hooked up on drugs and/or alcohol. You should pay for those who chose the wrong path.

I guess I better stop now, but honestly, I can see this as business as usual.

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That's harsh.

I live one county over from Sac. County in El Dorado county where it's largely rural. I can't imagine the local guv'mint imposing such rules. There would be a revolution.

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Unbelievable. I live on the border in El Dorado county. Two of my kids live in Sacramento county this is ridiculous.

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I am in Sacramento County and I can't believe some numb nuts politician has come up with an idea like this and implemented it.

I heard they are trying to shut down the Russian mechanics who are running a lot of backyard car repair shops and working all hours upsetting neighbors.

So typical of city hall they attack every homeowner rather than focus on those illegal shops.

I have worked many years to acquire every tool and the shop I have, I have been in my home for 41 years now. This type BS really turns my key.

Not sure what to do about it but this can't stand as a rule moving forward.
This part I really struggle with: In the past 2 mos I have gone through my entire boat and trailer to be ready for the season. Did a brake job and Intake manifold on my nephews F150 5.4L, installed ball joints on my Yukon, new Master Cylinder on the boat trailer.
I have yet to start the Vette Project which will include, Engine, Frame, Body and Interior work.
Are they going to come crate me away to Jail?

10. What is major automotive repair?
Major body and engine work and repairs to automobiles, other passenger vehicles, or boats is not permitted in residential areas. It is unlawful to perform these type of repairs in any zone, other than the GC, M-1 or M-2 zone, subject to use standards, or the LC zone subject to a Use Permit from the Zoning Administrator.
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This is not aimed at car enthusiasts who like to do their own work... in their own garage. This is aimed at wildcat auto mechanics who run multiple vehicles on their driveways and backyards with big lights all hours of the day and night. Essentially, they're trying to stop unlicensed, backyard auto shops.
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I am in Sacramento County and I can't believe some numb nuts CAL politician has come up with an idea like this and implemented it.
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You're joking, right?
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I've done more than a dozen engines at my house, never a compaint from any neighbor. The law definately states this is illegal now and subject to fines.
I never heard anything about this new law while it was in process, only after it was enacted.
See what we get with all our exceptionally high taxes in CA. Makes me want to puke.

If they want to elimate illegal shops, attack illegal shops, not every tax paying person in the county. I expect a revolt as word gets out.
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I spent my entire career (Fire Department), in Sacramento County. The City of Rancho Cordova, and Citrus Heights were also in our jurisdiction, both of which are in Sacramento County . The size of our Department is a population of over 745,000 citizens, with a geographical area that is close to 360 square miles.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that there are areas where Government Employees would/will push this to the furthest extent possible, while at the same time there are areas that it will never be enforced, simply because most Government Employees wouldn't venture into the neighborhoods. And if you happen to live in a decent area, don't think for a second that they will not go after the home hobbyist. They'll simply do so stating that the law applies to everybody, regardless of your objective.

Unfortunately, many of you hear about the crazy laws/policies in the State. Just when you think they can't get any crazier, those in charge seem to make a game of who can top one another.

The Bay Area (San Francisco), makes a big deal about plastic straws, and effectively places a ban on them. Yet the same area is full of homeless who defecate at will (in the open sidewalks), and the City offers drug addicts a place to shoot up with plastic syringes. And the plastic syringes are found, having been discarded everywhere throughout the City. But by gosh.....we're gonna outlaw those plastic straws!

Our illustrious Governor (Newsome), just signed into law providing health insurance to all illegals under the age of 26, yet will fine the citizens if they do not purchase health insurance. And don't forget to pay your deductible (unless you're an illegal).

Need to pay for uninsured motorists on your policy, because quite frankly, the likelihood of getting into an accident with an uninsured motorist is pretty high.

Firearms.....you shouldn't have the right to own firearms, but yet we'll reduce the theft of a firearm (less than a value of $900.00), to a misdemeanor. Simply because, you know, the criminals are just trying to get by, so you don't want to charge them with a felony should they steal a firearm. Besides, if you happen to be a working individual, who works for a living, pays taxes and so forth, you must be one of the "privileged" individuals who had the ability to work for a living, instead of getting hooked up on drugs and/or alcohol. You should pay for those who chose the wrong path.

I guess I better stop now, but honestly, I can see this as business as usual.

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Your comments are a mirrar image of what is happening in Wash State (Seattle/King County). Highest property crime and homelessness in U.S. The pinheads and Socialist polititions are hell bent on welcoming the drug addicts and faulting the police for trying to enforce the laws. I could take a lot of your time spewing these issues but unfortunately I believe it is becoming part of the landscape everywhere. EVERY DAY MY NECK GETS REDDER!!!!!
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San Francisco was the epicenter of the CAL insanity. Then, Newsome moved to Sacramento. As I recall, the voters of CAL sent him there.
Is it really a surprise that Sacramento is going more insane?
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Man I really fell for y'all guys but someone voted those pinheads and socialist into power.....
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Man I really fell for y'all guys but someone voted those pinheads and socialist into power.....
Well don't look at me! I didn't do it!
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I don't think these zoning regs differ from what you'll find in most decent residential neighborhoods. Look at section 2:

Is storing unregistered or inoperable vehicles permitted on my residential and agricultural property?

No, with a few exceptions (see below). It is unlawful to park or store, or permit others to park or store, automotive vehicles and trailers without current registration or in an inoperable condition on any lot in any residential, interim-residential, interim-estate, recreation, agricultural, interim-agricultural, or agricultural-residential zone unless they are stored in a fully enclosed building. This answer does not apply to commercial or industrial zones.

Note the sentence I underlined. You can have a resto project going in your garage, but I don't think most of us want to see cars up on jackstands in the driveways or front yards of our neighborhoods for months or years on end. And the same applies to a neighbor that does commercial automotive repair work that belongs in a commercial zoned area.

I think the basic rule of thumb is that major long term projects must be out of public view - like inside the garage or a fenced in back yard.

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Well don't look at me! I didn't do it!
Yea, it's beyond crazy. Most all my friends have similar principals to mine, yet we are outnumbered by the nuts in this State.

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The new stupid ammo laws too. The best one is you have to use lead free bullets to hunt any wild game including deer throughout all of California. It used to be just isolated to southern California because of the endangered condor. But you can still throw lead at the citizens... Also, you have to have either a real id or a passport to buy ammo. They want to add another law where you can only buy ammo for guns that are registered to you. Just more BS.

Sacramento county does have lots of chop shops and car thefts so I can kind of understand it... Most of the newer neighborhoods have homeowners' associations which have rules like no cars on blocks and such. Look at the highest car thefts and at the top of the list is Sacto, Redding, Stockton and Modesto. Heck, I had my truck stolen twice in Sac. Both times, it was thieves going after the radio which was nothing to brag about. Both times happened in two different locations in the front of where I lived at the time. We did not live in seedy areas.

Back in 1900s, we owned a house which was across an undeveloped park in eastern suburbs of Sacramento county. A few times we would waking up to find an abandoned chopped car dropped off across our street. One of these times the car was left there for over a week. We called the sheriff's department to request someone to get the vehicle moved off of the land. My wife's coworker's dad was the Sacramento county sheriff. She talked to him to see if he could get someone out there to get abandoned car. The sheriff drove over and sat there for almost an hour waiting for a flat bed to haul it away. This was your average neighborhood.

Personally, I understand it because of the high theft in that area. I do not see how they will enforce it with so much backlog of other priorities. Its probably geared towards the people who are trying to run an shop out of their home. Not really going after the average person who wants to work on their cars.

Unfortunately, Los Angeles and San Francisco voters have a lot of pull! This is why the State of Jefferson is still being talked about since before WW2. People think its a new idea but its not.

Now, my neighbors would like to see my vehicles moved but cannot do anything about it since the city has stopped chalking tires.

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Yes, and no HOA.
I have a lift in my garage and often work on other peoples cars.
I did my engine build and swap in my garage. And will continue to do so.
I wish I had a paint booth!!

Half of my motorcycles are not registered, because they are track only race bikes.

Fortunately I have amazing neighbors who love what I do. So.........
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Yea, it's beyond crazy. Most all my friends have similar principals to mine, yet we are outnumbered by the nuts in this State.

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I have friend who moved to Dana Point going on three years now, He said there was no one on the ballot that he would vote for. He is on Pelosi's district but said the only person other than her was even more whacko. In Texas, we normally have a Red Candidate and Blue Candidate on each voting cycle and usually an independent or two. Sometimes it's unopposed so you only get the incumbent but that's only for some positions like Railroad Commissioner.

He said it's not that way in his District, There were no red candidates at all, no independents and that someone else decided who even gets to be on the ballot. Is that true?
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Yes, and no HOA.
I have a lift in my garage and often work on other peoples cars.
I did my engine build and swap in my garage. And will continue to do so.
I wish I had a paint booth!!

Half of my motorcycles are not registered, because they are track only race bikes.

Fortunately I have amazing neighbors who love what I do. So.........
I wish you had a paint booth too Don! LOL!

Kind of like boats. You want your friends to by one so "we" can take it out and use it. LOL!

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Another new California law (passed last year, took effect last week) now makes it illegal to purchase ammunition on-line and have it shipped to your home (as I have done for many years where I live); ammo purchased on-line must be shipped to an FFL gun dealer and the transfer must take place there, with the FFL collecting a transfer fee like they do for guns. Who elects these jerks?
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Another new California law (passed last year, took effect last week) now makes it illegal to purchase ammunition on-line and have it shipped to your home (as I have done for many years where I live); ammo purchased on-line must be shipped to an FFL gun dealer and the transfer must take place there, with the FFL collecting a transfer fee like they do for guns. Who elects these jerks?
Yes, you're right John. Not only that, but we must now "apply" for the opportunity to purchase ammunition. And don't even think of crossing State lines to purchase with intentions to bring into the State of California.

These idiots are intent on making law abiding citizens into criminals!

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