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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 11:35 PM
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im getting ready to drop my motor and transmission into my ‘65. They will be installed together at the same time. I’ve got an engine leveler on the end my cherry picker. Small block 327/muncie M20.

is it better to attach the motor mounts to the engine and drop in or install mounts to frame and set motor on top of them. I’m thinking I might have binding where the mount attach to frame if I install on motor first and drop in because I might be at a little bit of an angle with the trans attached?

Whats the preferred method?

thanks for any guidance, first time
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 01:03 AM
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I left them on during the pull of the 327 and put them on before the 427 install. I don’t recall any major issues.




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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 05:56 AM
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I agree with Elwood...... mounts pre-attached to the engine. That's the way I do it and I've never had a problem with alignment.
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 08:43 AM
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I pre-attached but had an alignment issue with the thru bolts. You can see my thread here.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1607671126
Ended up loosening the mount to engine bolts and wrestling with it until it aligned.
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You will need to put a Jack under your transmission and lift it up to go over the transmission crossmember before the engine gets close to the frame mounts. That will level the engine up enough to allow it to settle down over the frame mounts. Be sure your engine hoist has enough reach and capacity to go in over the nose. A lot of them don’t have the reach necessary. If you used it to pull the engine and transmission out together then you already have this covered.
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 09:14 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Mounting the pads to motor was definitely the way I wanted to go before dropping the engine/trans in.

my picker wasn’t long enough to go over the nose when I pulled the motor out. Had to remove driver side front wheeel and come in from the side. Worked fine though.

thanks again!
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I went from the side as well.
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On my 62 I discovered that removing the fuel pump before the pull out and re-installing it AFTER the drop in made the job immensely easier. It also save me from buying a SECOND new fuel pump.
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I’ve heard that having the fuel pump mounted when dropping the engine in can be really difficult. I pulled my motor out with the pump attached and was planning on trying to drop it back in with pump on also.

I might be learning the hard way though. My dad is gonna try to give me a hand so hopefully wont be doing the job by myself.

thanks for the heads up!
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It's already a wrestling match without adding fuel pump to mix. I would remove it. I had a heck of a time because my new motor mounts did not fit over the saddles properly requiring a lot of blacksmithing and cussing. I would test them first.
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To Tim’s point, it is critical to test fit everything prior to install and yes, mounts on the engine.


Engine mounts on, fuel pump off to pull the old CE 350 from my ‘64 coupe.

Engine mounts on, no fuel pump as the new engine has EFI.

Slid right in, but test fit everything prior to installation.
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I attached the motor mounts to each side of the block accordingly prior to installation and also put on the fuel pump. Smooth as silk with no issues regarding either.

I was really happy that I had installed the fuel pump ahead of time. I was able to save all my four letter words for another project. C.J.


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Thanks for all the feedback, good stuff!

I was trying to stay away from using the intake manifold bolts to attach my leveler, didn’t really want to disturb the seal.

I was thinking of using two of the upper bell housing bolts to attach the rear of my leveler to and using the water pump bolts again at front.

just not sure if I can get the bell housing bolts back out one the engine is landed or if they will hit the tunnel and become stuck.


thanks again!
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I have done it both ways I think it is easier with the mounts on the frame. And yes fuel pump off. I also like to use a carburetor plate

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Originally Posted by Ryder5616
I’ve heard that having the fuel pump mounted when dropping the engine in can be really difficult. I pulled my motor out with the pump attached and was planning on trying to drop it back in with pump on also.

I might be learning the hard way though. My dad is gonna try to give me a hand so hopefully wont be doing the job by myself.

thanks for the heads up!
Do yourself a HUGE favor. Remove the pump and install it after the engine is secured on its mounts.
Please dont ask e hoa I came to this conclusion. Lest just say that the install will go much faster, you wont have to buy a new pump AND--once the engine is secure, it is much easier to install the fuel pump tna it it will be to remove it while the engine is hanging suspended during the install.
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Just set the engine to TDC to set the fuel pump cam at its top most spot. Looks really good. Good luck. Jerry
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Sounds good guys, thanks for the replies!

fuel pump is coming off before the install this weekend. I was avoiding that but main focus is just getting motor/trans landed.

I changed the fuel pump out about 10 years ago when I first got the car and was kinda of a pain. I didn’t know about the long bolt to capture the rod, this will make it much easier.

thanks!
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