The Hardest Thing I've Ever Done to My Vette
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St. Jude Donor '05
The Hardest Thing I've Ever Done to My Vette
Yesterday I put a new radiator in the stock '80. No problems, Not bad at all.
Today. I decided to put in a new windshield washer jar and a new radiator overflow tank.
The radiator tank required taking off the fender mounted air induction tube and the A/C compressor from the bracket. Still it really wasn't that bad.
The Windshield Washer Jar was another @#$%^ 'n story!
It was almost impossible to get out must less back in. It required removal of the charcoal canister and bracket and a trick monkey to get it back in. I knew I was in trouble when I couldn't find it listed in the shop manual. Never again! I'll defiantly have this marked to go in while the body is off the frame on the other one! jim
Today. I decided to put in a new windshield washer jar and a new radiator overflow tank.
The radiator tank required taking off the fender mounted air induction tube and the A/C compressor from the bracket. Still it really wasn't that bad.
The Windshield Washer Jar was another @#$%^ 'n story!
It was almost impossible to get out must less back in. It required removal of the charcoal canister and bracket and a trick monkey to get it back in. I knew I was in trouble when I couldn't find it listed in the shop manual. Never again! I'll defiantly have this marked to go in while the body is off the frame on the other one! jim
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Miami is really cool for dirty windshields: you can pull up to any stoplight downtown and guys come out of nowhere and start washing your windshield with windex ( not really sure WHAT they have in those bottles) and newspaper. Some nice people tip them.
who needs a washer bottle?
who needs a washer bottle?
#4
Drifting
My washer bottle started to develop a very slow leak and I looked at what it would take to get it out. I closed the hood and had another beer after just looking. I don't think I want to tackle that project any time soon. Looks like one of those projects where you tackle it if you ever have the engine out.
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Race Director
when the engine is out its easy.....you stand where the engine is and put your arm in between the fire wall and mst cyl vaccum booster and use an extension on the reatchet and the top bolt is easy....can't imagine trying to duplicate that arm position in any other way....
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Originally Posted by PROSOUTH
It was almost impossible to get out must less back in. It required removal of the charcoal canister and bracket and a trick monkey to get it back in.
maybe you need teh trunk monkey system!!!
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Is the problem with the 80's style body design or the earlier ones? I see the bottle tucked in under the fender well but I didn't really know how difficult it was to re & re. I think mine maybe leaking also but it's not my main concern now. Rebuilding the fricken Q-Jet is.
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> Putting in a new radiator was easy.
How many times did you put it in?
I could never get the shroud aligned on the radiator. I ended up rubbing a hole
in the radiator in the middle due to the electric fan.
Recently I found out that the radiator and shroud went in as a unit when
assembled - that's why it was easier...
I couldn't get the charcoal canister out - I can't imagine the washer fluid bottle.
Will remember to do something about that when engine is out...
How many times did you put it in?
I could never get the shroud aligned on the radiator. I ended up rubbing a hole
in the radiator in the middle due to the electric fan.
Recently I found out that the radiator and shroud went in as a unit when
assembled - that's why it was easier...
I couldn't get the charcoal canister out - I can't imagine the washer fluid bottle.
Will remember to do something about that when engine is out...
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Originally Posted by Maymyvetteliveforevr
Is the problem with the 80's style body design or the earlier ones? I see the bottle tucked in under the fender well but I didn't really know how difficult it was to re & re. I think mine maybe leaking also but it's not my main concern now. Rebuilding the fricken Q-Jet is.
The Vette has some tight spots but this one is the worst of all. I looked and tried to figure out the trick to get it done and there just wasn't any good way.
It is possible to remove the hoses from the canister and take it completely out through the bottom. I had trouble getting the hoses loose because of the limited space and so I tried to juggle the two pieces instead. It did work, but I'm not sure which would have been easier if either.
I took off the washer pump through the side vent, This requires removal of the upper neck then a 7/8th inch deepwell socket with a dab of weatherstrip adhesive to allow the filter to stay with the socket as it is removed. I used a 6" extension with the socket to reach the bottom and remove the filter. It goes back in the same way.
Next the charcoal canister was loosened, removed the bracket, and pushed it straight up while moving the washer jar down. It just barely cleared the frame and inner fender on the way down. In fact it required a little force to get it out the bottom. I actually rolled and turned the jar several times in order to align its decent.
This is not an easy task and not something quickly done. Oh yeah, for those with no patience stay away! and beer doesn't help accomplish this one. lol jim
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St. Jude Donor '05
Putting in a new radiator was easy.
ADAM "How many times did you put it in? I could never get the shroud aligned on the radiator. I ended up rubbing a hole in the radiator in the middle due to the electric fan."
I really did not have any problems removing or installing the new HD Modine radiator. ($165 dlr cost) I removed the top radiator brackets and the two bolts from the shroud, took the upper and lower radiator hoses off and the anti-vibration connector hoses and bottom clamps from the transmission lines then pulled the shroud toward the fan and lifted the radiator out.
The shroud pushes down and two tabs go into slots one on each side of the cradle. Just don't tighten anything up tight until it all aligns. I snugged the four bolts on the brackets in conjunction with the two shroud bolts until they were all tight and in proper alignment. jim
ADAM "How many times did you put it in? I could never get the shroud aligned on the radiator. I ended up rubbing a hole in the radiator in the middle due to the electric fan."
I really did not have any problems removing or installing the new HD Modine radiator. ($165 dlr cost) I removed the top radiator brackets and the two bolts from the shroud, took the upper and lower radiator hoses off and the anti-vibration connector hoses and bottom clamps from the transmission lines then pulled the shroud toward the fan and lifted the radiator out.
The shroud pushes down and two tabs go into slots one on each side of the cradle. Just don't tighten anything up tight until it all aligns. I snugged the four bolts on the brackets in conjunction with the two shroud bolts until they were all tight and in proper alignment. jim
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Try this
The windshield reservoir bottle leaked on my 79 as well. It is difficult but try this. Remove the nuts holding the master cylinder on the vacuum brake booster; there are 4 of them. Do not disconnect the brake lines from the master cylinder. Using a pry gently pry/push the master cylinder from the mounting studs and then support it as not to kink the brake lines. With the master cylinder moved the washer bottle could be accessed. I believe that the self-tapping speed screw that fastens the bottle to the support bracket is a 10mm. It will take about 1.5 to 2.0 hours. Be patient. Good luck.