Follow along as I attempt a frame off restoration on a 71 (Pics)
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Burning Brakes
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Follow along as I attempt a frame off restoration on a 71 (Pics)
Hey guys,
A lot of you have seen the post about cancer in the birdcage. If not here you go.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=958895
I originally started this whole thing with changing a fuse. Oh well things got out of control. As I took piece after piece off, I discovered more and more that needed attention. I realized that the band-aids that I was applying could no longer hold back the hemorrhaging that was about to occur. I’ve done bits and pieces here and there like the new suspension, new stereo, and hydro-boost braking system. When I discovered the rust in the birdcage, I new it was time for the frame-off. So here we are. I figure that there are others out there in the same situation so I will do my best to document this entire process. I am by no means an expert when it comes to this. I fix computers for a living but I can handle a wrench to a certain degree. I will be calling on all of you that have already done this for some of your advice as well. This weekend I removed the body from the metal frame to a temporary wooden frame. First question, after I strip the rest of the frame of the lines and suspension, will a high pressure wash clean it up good enough for the POR-15 coating or do I have to take it and get it bead/sand/media blasted? Best place to buy some POR-15?
Here are some pics from this weekend.
A lot of you have seen the post about cancer in the birdcage. If not here you go.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=958895
I originally started this whole thing with changing a fuse. Oh well things got out of control. As I took piece after piece off, I discovered more and more that needed attention. I realized that the band-aids that I was applying could no longer hold back the hemorrhaging that was about to occur. I’ve done bits and pieces here and there like the new suspension, new stereo, and hydro-boost braking system. When I discovered the rust in the birdcage, I new it was time for the frame-off. So here we are. I figure that there are others out there in the same situation so I will do my best to document this entire process. I am by no means an expert when it comes to this. I fix computers for a living but I can handle a wrench to a certain degree. I will be calling on all of you that have already done this for some of your advice as well. This weekend I removed the body from the metal frame to a temporary wooden frame. First question, after I strip the rest of the frame of the lines and suspension, will a high pressure wash clean it up good enough for the POR-15 coating or do I have to take it and get it bead/sand/media blasted? Best place to buy some POR-15?
Here are some pics from this weekend.
Last edited by kortensi; 10-10-2005 at 09:52 AM.
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Your frame looks pretty clean and solid. I would say that you probably don't need to sandblast. You may want to remove any remaining paint on your frame. A good steam cleaning to degrease and take off all of the loose dirt. POR-15's selling point is that it will go directly over rust without having to strip it all off. There's a couple of body supply and auto parts stores near me that sell POR-15. You might want to check around in your area. If no luck there's vendors that advertize in Hemming's. Most swap meets almost always have a POR vendor. There's also a less expensive alternative called Chassis Saver that is essentially the same thing. I've had decent results with both brands. If you're top coating with a conventional paint, don't bother with the semi-gloss versions of these paints as I was very disappointed at the inconsistent flattening (Some areas shiny, others more flat).
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Man... all that for trying to change out a fuse????
I know what you mean. It takes me about 5 times as long as I planned for any project. As long as part 1 is off, you might as well take part 2 off to clean it. Which of course means pulling out part 3, 4 and 5. By then you need new bolts and washers, which of course you dont have, and have to go to the store...etc, etc, etc.
I cant imagine doing a frame off restoration like you. Thats something beyond my technical capability.
kdf
I know what you mean. It takes me about 5 times as long as I planned for any project. As long as part 1 is off, you might as well take part 2 off to clean it. Which of course means pulling out part 3, 4 and 5. By then you need new bolts and washers, which of course you dont have, and have to go to the store...etc, etc, etc.
I cant imagine doing a frame off restoration like you. Thats something beyond my technical capability.
kdf
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you have a CRAP LOAD of work ahead of you man!!. Best of luck.
As for where to get POR-15. Go to POR15.com. They ship fast
Keep us updated this should be VERY interesting.
As for where to get POR-15. Go to POR15.com. They ship fast
Keep us updated this should be VERY interesting.
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Originally Posted by kdf1986
Man... all that for trying to change out a fuse????
I know what you mean. It takes me about 5 times as long as I planned for any project. As long as part 1 is off, you might as well take part 2 off to clean it. Which of course means pulling out part 3, 4 and 5. By then you need new bolts and washers, which of course you dont have, and have to go to the store...etc, etc, etc.
I cant imagine doing a frame off restoration like you. Thats something beyond my technical capability.
kdf
I know what you mean. It takes me about 5 times as long as I planned for any project. As long as part 1 is off, you might as well take part 2 off to clean it. Which of course means pulling out part 3, 4 and 5. By then you need new bolts and washers, which of course you dont have, and have to go to the store...etc, etc, etc.
I cant imagine doing a frame off restoration like you. Thats something beyond my technical capability.
kdf
Exactly as you said KDF, as long as part 1 is off you may as well take part 2 off, then .........................
I have seen it happen many times with my boyfriend and his cars....but he doesn't end up putting them ALL back together!
He knows to keep his hands off my vette!
Good luck with your resto dude, looks like you gotta bit of work done over the weekend... congrats
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Ok, this weekend I stripped the suspension, steering, gas tank, and fuel, brake, and vacuum lines off the frame. I got the frame outside and pressure washed it with a degreaser. It didn’t do much. It just cleaned off the dust and dirt. I picked up a 40 pound sandblaster from Harbor Freight tools for $80. The first one was DRT out of the box but I had to try to fix it for a couple of hours before taking it back. The second one worked pretty well, but by the time I got going, the Spurs game had started. Here are some new pics. I’m going to order the Por-15 today.
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you're doing a fine job. you'll love the por-15. BTW spurs suc. had to throw that in being from motown. hopefully the pistons will make it a series now that we go home
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Your doing great work. Heres what I learned from others.
While your frame is naked check it out to make sure it is straight. Weld all the seams as per the CHEVY High Performance book. Gusset the weak areas near the steering. Then check the frame again. Then get it powdercoated.
That frame will clean, rigid, true and outlast your grandchildren if you do.
While your frame is naked check it out to make sure it is straight. Weld all the seams as per the CHEVY High Performance book. Gusset the weak areas near the steering. Then check the frame again. Then get it powdercoated.
That frame will clean, rigid, true and outlast your grandchildren if you do.
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Originally Posted by rosslato
you're doing a fine job. you'll love the por-15. BTW spurs suc. had to throw that in being from motown. hopefully the pistons will make it a series now that we go home
#17
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by billla
I'm starting this process, and my wife would like to know if you've replaced the fuse yet <ducking>
Actually yes, I did, but I would like to change the fuse box from the round glass one to the newer plastic ones. Does anyone know if there is a kit to just update the box without having to change out all the wiring? Just wondering?
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Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by stingry
Your doing great work. Heres what I learned from others.
While your frame is naked check it out to make sure it is straight. Weld all the seams as per the CHEVY High Performance book. Gusset the weak areas near the steering. Then check the frame again. Then get it powdercoated.
That frame will clean, rigid, true and outlast your grandchildren if you do.
While your frame is naked check it out to make sure it is straight. Weld all the seams as per the CHEVY High Performance book. Gusset the weak areas near the steering. Then check the frame again. Then get it powdercoated.
That frame will clean, rigid, true and outlast your grandchildren if you do.
I download and printed the book (thanks) and maybe the answer is in there but I will throw this out there anyway.
What type of metal should I use to make the gussets and does it matter which type of welder I use. I know how to use an Oxy and Mig welders, but I have read where others are using a stick. I've never had the opportunity to use one of those.
Last edited by kortensi; 06-17-2005 at 10:11 AM.
#19
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by kortensi
Thanks and BTW the Spurs lick, Detroit sucs, there’s a difference. J/K
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Melting Slicks
hey kortensi, where are u? what no rebuttal?. game 4 a pistons ROUT. series all square, advantage Pistons. game 5 sunday nite.