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Old 07-01-2005, 04:34 PM
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took the vette out today. figured 10:30am, not to much traffic I need to get some smokes a few towns away. I get there, pick up my smokes, leave the car running as I have the hot soleniod problem. Driving back, just about to hit the hwy, putt, putt, putt. Sh*t ran out of gas. What a stupid SOB I am. Thank god, there was a gas station about 1/2 a block away. Well I feel good, about not having to walk a mile, so I go over as if they have any gas can's, of course that would be asking too muck. I say you got any empty containers, nooo. I buy a gallon of water, dump it out. I shake the crap out of it, to get the excess water out of it. Walking back I see a beautiful 63 vert drives by real slow, points to mine, I show him the gas he smiles and drives away. Put the gas in, dump some in the carb, well guess what, the car is still too hot. Had to wait abut 15 minutes, that felt like a lifetime. I need to fix the soleniod.
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:49 PM
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that's GOTTA suck
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:52 PM
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I know what you mean...Its embarassing
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:55 PM
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What bad luck! But you are lucky. The gas stations here will not fill gas in any container that is not specifically made for gasoline. It has to have a DOT label on it. They are so strict here that you can not use your cell phone or have your engine running while you pump gas.

I ran out of gas and had to shell out $20 for an approved gas container. My walk was about three times as far as yours. That's what I get for not looking at my gas gauge.......
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Old 07-01-2005, 07:26 PM
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That sucks......fix that soleniod
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Old 07-01-2005, 08:21 PM
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that is why I got AAA they bring it to you. and if you need a tow.
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:56 PM
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I got the heat soak too. Happened today too. Almost drained my battery. I think I read a while back that Summit sells a "Ford kit" to move the solenoid away from the block/exhaust. Definetly gonna check it out.

Z-man you got one?
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:59 PM
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I had to call in to work one day because of heat soak when I had my 79. When I got to work they really razzed me on that one. I replaced the starter solenoid and did not experience the problem again.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:24 PM
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Well, I'm glad you didnt do that in San Diego on a highway. You would've caused a 6 car accident and extra horrible traffic all evening long. SoCal drivers suck, and rubberneck EVERYTHING.
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Originally Posted by Jughead
I got the heat soak too. Happened today too. Almost drained my battery. I think I read a while back that Summit sells a "Ford kit" to move the solenoid away from the block/exhaust. Definetly gonna check it out.

Z-man you got one?
I have the summit kit along with a gear reduction starter. It totally did the trick. I think I could keep the key on for an hour and it would still be cranking.

The summit kit is just a remote solenoid...just like a Ford.
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[QUOTE=Sharky Guam]What bad luck! But you are lucky. The gas stations here will not fill gas in any container that is not specifically made for gasoline. It has to have a DOT label on it.
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Happened to me once, not in the Vette. Had to empty a 2 liter of Coke, and sneak gas in it.

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Old 07-03-2005, 12:53 AM
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Something besides heat soak... Could be to much intial advance.. Oh and on the subject of starters.. Originally there was a lighter spring in the starter.. The new ones don't have the right spring and this contributes to heat soak.... Dave..
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Old 07-03-2005, 01:09 AM
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I guess you will remember Check Gas, watch side pipes.
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I'm all for the cheap and simple fix. If you get some high temp heat shield material (aluminum foil faced/fiberglass filled material) and scrunch it between the starter and the block it can resist enough "heat gain" to keep that solenid working. That stuff is cheap if you've got a good military surplus store near you. I love the local surplus store (Sky Craft) for having all of the obscure stuff that hot rodders need to make things work. Just wanted to give you a cheap alternative. Hope you get it situated!
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that used to happen to me a lot so i bought a SS starter heat shield thats made for our vettes and have never had that problem again. it also adds some shine to eng bay and hides that ugly starter.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:43 AM
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If you do not like the idea of a firewall solenoid, here is another - albeit expensive - solution.

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Old 07-03-2005, 11:14 AM
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Pretty funny...it gave me a nice smile and laugh...but it wasn't me !!!!!
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Originally Posted by paul67
If you do not like the idea of a firewall solenoid, here is another - albeit expensive - solution.


Is that solenoid "offset" Paul? Looks to be from the pic.

Here's the one I'm using:

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Old 07-03-2005, 12:16 PM
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who sells the stainless starter heat shields?
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Old 07-03-2005, 01:03 PM
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Jughead,
Here's another view. That's a Moroso heatshield on one side. That unit went on my 1979 four years ago and has never failed to start the car. BTW it's a Genuine GM Performance Part....Made in Taiwan.

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