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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Has anyone installed a Fire Bottle? If so, how and what did you use? I'm thinking of something like this: http://ecklers.com/product.asp?pf_id=53651&dept_id=1617
Curious if I need additional hardware. Pics would help.
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I dont know if this will help you but I instaled a fire exstinguisher in my 72 coupe with 2 plastic wire ties



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- 1 lb is inadequate
- dry chemical is destructive
- price is very high for that product

I have a 2 1/2 lb Halotron.

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woah hold it WUH HUH?

-1 lb is inadequate why would this be? If the car is engulfed the nlet her go! i would think that these are used for small fires?

- dry chemical is destructive. how is it destructive as compared to (what are the choices?)

- price is very high for that product. what would a good price be for one?

Reason being as i just got one that we have had in the house. I figured for a small engine fire or something electrical it would be okay. Its is charged and ready to go. But just dont know if its going to be enough as you said. If i recall its 1lb.
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woah hold it WUH HUH?

-1 lb is inadequate why would this be? If the car is engulfed the nlet her go! i would think that these are used for small fires?

- dry chemical is destructive. how is it destructive as compared to (what are the choices?)

- price is very high for that product. what would a good price be for one?

Reason being as i just got one that we have had in the house. I figured for a small engine fire or something electrical it would be okay. Its is charged and ready to go. But just dont know if its going to be enough as you said. If i recall its 1lb.
All good questions and this is why I asked before buying. Looking for some pics as well. The 2 1/2 halotron is pretty damn big isn't it?
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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All good questions and this is why I asked before buying. Looking for some pics as well. The 2 1/2 halotron is pretty damn big isn't it?
The discharge time for a 2 1/2 lb Amerex Halotron is 9 seconds. A 1 lb would be OK for a BIC lighter.

I'll leave it to the experts but a $5.99 frying pan fire on the stove is OK for dry chemical but hitting a carb fire with it basically means carb throw-away time.

Halotron is a gas that removes oxygen from the area of the flames, then dissipates.

That 2 1/2 lb unit is not large. Here is one in my former 1967.



As to cost, yes they can get expensive. But I don't compromise on quality and secure mounting systems. The unit I showed above is firmly mounted onto the rear compartment deck with a bolted-down bracket and steel straps.

http://www.vetteworksonline.com/

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Originally Posted by paul67
The discharge time for a 2 1/2 lb Amerex Halotron is 9 seconds. A 1 lb would be OK for a BIC lighter.

I'll leave it to the experts but a $5.99 frying pan fire on the stove is OK for dry chemical but hitting a carb fire with it basically means carb throw-away time.

Halotron is a gas that removes oxygen from the area of the flames, then dissipates.

That 2 1/2 lb unit is not large. Here is one in my former 1967.



As to cost, yes they can get expensive. But I don't compromise on quality and secure mounting systems. The unit I showed above is firmly mounted onto the rear compartment deck with a bolted-down bracket and steel straps.

http://www.vetteworksonline.com/


They use Halotron in the marine industry that mounts in the engine bay. Only way to go and bigger is better. Take and old extinguisher and shoot it off a 1 lb unit and you will see for yourself that there isn't much there. When your babby is on fire you will want the biggest extinguisher available.

Remember to always shoot at the base of a fire not the flames.

This maybe easiler on the pocketbook
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...4&ci_sku=53173

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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spedaleden


They use Halotron in the marine industry that mounts in the engine bay. Only way to go and bigger is better. Take and old extinguisher and shoot it off a 1 lb unit and you will see for yourself that there isn't much there. When your babby is on fire you will want the biggest extinguisher available.

Remember to always shoot at the base of a fire not the flames.
Bigger is better and dry chemical is really messy and eats aluminum.

1nice corvette---I dont think Paul meant not to use a 1 pounder if thats all you have at the time but if your planning plan well.

I personally "believe" in the fire extinguisher theory.
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Bigger is better and dry chemical is really messy and eats aluminum.

1nice corvette---I dont think Paul meant not to use a 1 pounder if thats all you have at the time but if your planning plan well.

I personally "believe" in the fire extinguisher theory.
If you have a carb or dash wiring harness fire then 2 1/5 lb Halotron will probably do the job. Do not use dry chemical, you will be restoring for years. If the rear gas tank rubber hoses let go on the exhaust system then just walk away and claim insurance.
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Halon is great but don't set it off with the windows closed and while you're in the car ! (you'll die)
It removes o2 from lungs aswell and if you have an engine compartment fire with the car running the fan will dissipate the halon , A CO2 type or the new "K" type would be my choice.

P.S. Sorry I don't think they come crome
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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Two haltron's mounted to shark bar
Haltron is more expensive but cheap compared to the $$, sweat and blood I already have into the car.
They do come in Chrome but add $50 bucks or something rediculous for the chrome finish.



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Originally Posted by 68 NJConv 454
Two haltron's mounted to shark bar
Haltron is more expensive but cheap compared to the $$, sweat and blood I already have into the car.
They do come in Chrome but add $50 bucks or something rediculous for the chrome finish.



You have a very nice car man.I have watched this car over the last couple years,and you have done a VERY nice job.
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Thanks everyone. I'm glad I asked and have learned a little bit about fire extinguishers. Going with the chrome 2 1/2lb. halotron. Just need to figure out how I'm going to mount it, preferrably in the rear compartment somewhere. Any more pics of installed fire extinguishers?
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An ABC rated or a BC rated are both dry chemical extinguishers and put out oil and gas fires as well as electrical fires if used properly. The difference is the ABC is multi-purpose which means they are also rated for Class A or solid combustibles like paper, vinyl, wood, etc. and have a quality which makes them stick to hot surfaces to exclude O2 from getting to the fuel. All dry chem extinguishers are messy to clean up but the ABC are especially messy and damaging if gotten into a carb intake, etc. because leave a sticky residue after coming in contact with hot surfaces. A 2 or 2 1/2 pounder may be adequate but a 5 pounder would be better if you have the room.
A CO2 (carbon dioxide) is good for electrical and will not leave residue but is easily dispersed in an open environment. It excludes O2 and is heavier than air which could be a problem for breathing it in a closed space.
Halon is a halogenated hydrocarbon which interferes with the chemical reaction of a fire rather than smothering it or cooling the fuel below its kindling temp. Halon is quite a bit more expensive, must be recharged after use by a specialty fire company but is not nearly harmful as CO2 to breathe. Following exposure to heat, the thermal decomposition products of Halon become harmful when breathed.
So, it depends upon which type of fire you are most likely to need protection from and in which environment - either closed space or open air and what cost constraints you may have.
Hope this helps some in your selection.
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Really nice set up ! and a great installation but i have one question don't most fire's start under the hood ?
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Originally Posted by Vette79C3
Has anyone installed a Fire Bottle? If so, how and what did you use? I'm thinking of something like this: http://ecklers.com/product.asp?pf_id=53651&dept_id=1617
Curious if I need additional hardware. Pics would help.
Check this out.

http://www.vetteworksonline.com/cata...products_id=77
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Originally Posted by Vette79C3
Just need to figure out how I'm going to mount it, preferrably in the rear compartment somewhere. Any more pics of installed fire extinguishers?
I don't have a pic of mine yet but I mounted it on top of the rear wheel well just behind the passenger shoulder belt. I didn't want to drill any holes in the Vette so I used a flat piece of 1/8" aluminum strap about 2" x 16" and put a bend in it in to get the shape to somewhat match the contour of the wheel well. Drilled a hole in the strap so that I could use the shoulder belt mounting bolt and then drilled the other end of the strap to mount the fire extinguisher. Painted it black to match the carpet. The strap happened to be about the same thickness as the flat washer on the shoulder belt bolt so I left that washer out. The project turned out great. The hole you drill in the strap needs to be off-center. You can tell what I mean if you'll test fit the strap with the extinguisher mounted to it before drilling the hole.

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I have the 2 1/2lb. Halon Fire Extinguisher and want to mount it to the very back just below the pull shade. I need to know if you have to remove the speakers in order to remove the pull shade and what type of material makes up the vertical backend? Any reason not to mount a fire extinguisher there?
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As vettedan mentioned, follow this link if installing a fire extinguisher. Mine is installed and it's great. No holes or mods needed to be done to the car.
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Originally Posted by Vette79C3
Thanks everyone. I'm glad I asked and have learned a little bit about fire extinguishers. Going with the chrome 2 1/2lb. halotron. Just need to figure out how I'm going to mount it, preferrably in the rear compartment somewhere. Any more pics of installed fire extinguishers?
Fiberglass is thick here. I used some large stacked washers under the bracket to get it to sit nice. Just pre drill and use #10 x 1" pan head sheet metal screws.

(I know it's a cheap setup, but good for now, will move to Halon, soon, Pauls take on Using dry chemical ext's in a car is accurate)

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