Door Wedge and Trim
#1
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Door Wedge and Trim
Hi guys....
Can you clarify where the 'wedges' are located on the rear edge of the doors and leading edge of the quarter panels for a 1969 Coupe? Any pics showing the entirety of the edge of the door would be appreciated.
Alan - I know you should have the pics of pics here !
The AIM shows on J163 UPC1 Sheeet K8 that Item 4 (Plate) and item 2 (Wedge). Corvette Central sells these items 283050 (Plastic Wedge) and 283016 (Brass Wedge).
Although I thought only convertibles had these 'wedges (maybe a conical shape??), I do recall removing some blocks/bumpers from the edge of the door a few years ago. I was thinking these were possibly painted body color, but I do not find any more parts - maybe I lost these.
thanks
Can you clarify where the 'wedges' are located on the rear edge of the doors and leading edge of the quarter panels for a 1969 Coupe? Any pics showing the entirety of the edge of the door would be appreciated.
Alan - I know you should have the pics of pics here !
The AIM shows on J163 UPC1 Sheeet K8 that Item 4 (Plate) and item 2 (Wedge). Corvette Central sells these items 283050 (Plastic Wedge) and 283016 (Brass Wedge).
Although I thought only convertibles had these 'wedges (maybe a conical shape??), I do recall removing some blocks/bumpers from the edge of the door a few years ago. I was thinking these were possibly painted body color, but I do not find any more parts - maybe I lost these.
thanks
#2
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Only wedges I've ever seen are for the convertibles. Adds rigidity, keeps the flexing of the door within the jamb down.
Bumper... are you referring to the bumper for the door ajar switch? A rubber bumper stuck to the door?
Bumper... are you referring to the bumper for the door ajar switch? A rubber bumper stuck to the door?
#3
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Hi Roger - thanks...
Well I kinda recall these brass ones that Corvette Central is selling, but I thought they were painted. I must have had something in this upper area of the rear of the door - as I see holes - BUT - I do not see any holes on the jamb on the quarter panel area.
As for the bumpers - they look like a 3/4" x 3/4" x 1/4" hard rubber with an adhesive back.
Well I kinda recall these brass ones that Corvette Central is selling, but I thought they were painted. I must have had something in this upper area of the rear of the door - as I see holes - BUT - I do not see any holes on the jamb on the quarter panel area.
As for the bumpers - they look like a 3/4" x 3/4" x 1/4" hard rubber with an adhesive back.
#4
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Maybe your door was replaced with one from a Convertible?
On the AIM, look carefully at the notes, I suspect this wedge is for a 19467 (convertible), not the 19437 (Coupe). I don't have an AIM handy at the moment.
RE: Bumper.. yeah, that's the one, a rubber block with an adhesive backing.
On the AIM, look carefully at the notes, I suspect this wedge is for a 19467 (convertible), not the 19437 (Coupe). I don't have an AIM handy at the moment.
RE: Bumper.. yeah, that's the one, a rubber block with an adhesive backing.
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Hi,
My understanding is that the door jamb and lock pillar wedges were used on 69 coupes at the beginning of production but phased out during the model year.
The 2 dimples for the screws are still there on my 71.
The only rubber pad I can think of would be the switch bumper that's been mentioned.
Regards,
Alan
Sorry KB, no pictures for this one.
My understanding is that the door jamb and lock pillar wedges were used on 69 coupes at the beginning of production but phased out during the model year.
The 2 dimples for the screws are still there on my 71.
The only rubber pad I can think of would be the switch bumper that's been mentioned.
Regards,
Alan
Sorry KB, no pictures for this one.
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GM seemed to be trying different things on the 68-69-70 doors. 68 convertible doors used the same wedges as 63-67 convertibles. These consisted of the plastic wedge on the lock pillar in 69fastfun's picture, and an identical shaped metal wedge on the door.
69's used the long pointed brass wedge on the door, and the plastic wedge on the lock pillar. It appears that GM used them on all cars at the start of production, and at some point in the year, decided that coupes didn't need them.
For 1970 (and later years), there was nothing used on the doors of coupes, to help align them. The 70 and later convertible doors were modified at the top rear, to receive a chrome male alignment pin. A corresponding brass lined female alignment receiver was added to 70-75 convertible door lock pillars.
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Great pics Andy.... those are in Alan's league... Alan - I bet the farm on you bud !
With ya'lls guidance, I checked my car and I see the dimples on the quarter... no holes. On the rear of the door edge, I see the 2 holes, but no evidence that the holes were ever used.
From Andy's pics - I can see where the brass would wedge itself against the rubber on the quarter panel. Andy - was your brass wedge orignally painted?
I understand on the switch bumper as well thanks..
Interesting info on the evolution of the alignment wedges
With ya'lls guidance, I checked my car and I see the dimples on the quarter... no holes. On the rear of the door edge, I see the 2 holes, but no evidence that the holes were ever used.
From Andy's pics - I can see where the brass would wedge itself against the rubber on the quarter panel. Andy - was your brass wedge orignally painted?
I understand on the switch bumper as well thanks..
Interesting info on the evolution of the alignment wedges
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For 1970 (and later years), there was nothing used on the doors of coupes, to help align them. The 70 and later convertible doors were modified at the top rear, to receive a chrome male alignment pin. A corresponding brass lined female alignment receiver was added to 70-75 convertible door lock pillars.
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Great pics Andy.... those are in Alan's league... Alan - I bet the farm on you bud !
With ya'lls guidance, I checked my car and I see the dimples on the quarter... no holes. On the rear of the door edge, I see the 2 holes, but no evidence that the holes were ever used.
From Andy's pics - I can see where the brass would wedge itself against the rubber on the quarter panel. Andy - was your brass wedge orignally painted?
I understand on the switch bumper as well thanks..
Interesting info on the evolution of the alignment wedges
With ya'lls guidance, I checked my car and I see the dimples on the quarter... no holes. On the rear of the door edge, I see the 2 holes, but no evidence that the holes were ever used.
From Andy's pics - I can see where the brass would wedge itself against the rubber on the quarter panel. Andy - was your brass wedge orignally painted?
I understand on the switch bumper as well thanks..
Interesting info on the evolution of the alignment wedges
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Mine was a late September car.... no wedge at all...evidently.
Great pics on they '71 ....thanks for sharing
Great pics on they '71 ....thanks for sharing
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Andy - was your brass wedge orignally painted?
Convertibles used the same plastic wedge, and a similar metal wedge, to align the deck lid, they were never painted. The wedges used on mid-year convertible doors, were never painted either.
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If the application applied only to convertibles, 19467 would appear in the model designation; 19437 if the application was only for coupes.
All AIMs through 75 will have the model designation on the AIM page.
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Hey Mike
yeah - I saw that as well.... funny how some items were added / deleted then re-appeared later on in production.
It seems as though could just have simply been a cost reduction issue vs. advantage.
yeah - I saw that as well.... funny how some items were added / deleted then re-appeared later on in production.
It seems as though could just have simply been a cost reduction issue vs. advantage.
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Hi Mike,
In the 71 AIM it's moved to sheet K7, but is the same drawing slightly modified. It's still shows model 19000.
The convertible wedge, as GC's picture shows, is listed as item #1, with a note that it's a 19467 part only.
Interesting way to deal with the change.
Regards,
Alan
In the 71 AIM it's moved to sheet K7, but is the same drawing slightly modified. It's still shows model 19000.
The convertible wedge, as GC's picture shows, is listed as item #1, with a note that it's a 19467 part only.
Interesting way to deal with the change.
Regards,
Alan
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Indeed interesting - I guess that clarifies when it went verts only.. ?
So now that I ordered the parts, I have to figure if it is a worhtwhile mod - seems as though any support to the back end of the doors would be good.
So now that I ordered the parts, I have to figure if it is a worhtwhile mod - seems as though any support to the back end of the doors would be good.