1969 427 in Minny
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Ha good humor. The owner of the Vette's name happens to be Rusty. Hopefully it's not synonymous with the car. Probably covered in another thread, but how much effort is required in removing the god awful luggage rack?
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I totally stole these pad pictures from another member post on one of the endless pad discussion threads on here.
The pad is located in front (the radiator side) of the passenger side head. You are looking for an assembly code, which has the factory location prefix, date code and suffix telling you the engine option. (a 1969 4 speed 427/390 would be "MH" for instance).
The other number would be the VIN derivative, which will contain the VIN sequence number that "matches" your body VIN (windshield post and frame) and title. This is the essence of what "matching numbers" is.
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Here's the report I have was given.
Serial Number: 31688, built mid-October 1969
Exterior:
Body – straight and clean, no modifications.
Doors- fit well, close solid, no sagging.
Chrome – very good condition, no dents, left rear bumper has minor scuffing on
top surface.
Windows – glass very good condition, no cracks.
Luggage rack – factory type, very good condition, all plastic tips intact.
Antenna – original.
Outside rearview mirror – original, very good.
Tires – private label, near new condition.
Wheels – stock rally wheels with factory hub caps, all very good except
slight surface rust on right front wheel.
Paint – paint code 974, Monza red. Paint color appears a little more orange
than stock, need to compare to correct paint chip.
Pin stripping – minor yellow pin stripping on sides.
Front grills – very good condition.
Interior:
Seats – restored, factory like, excellent condition.
Door panels – restored, factory like, excellent condition.
Console – appears original, very good condition.
Dash – original, very good condition, map pockets stretched out.
Odometer – reads 96,000 miles, appears accurate for condition of vehicle.
Carpet, front – restored, factory like, excellent condition.
Carpet, luggage area: - original, minor fading, good condition.
Door sills – appear original, good condition.
T-tops – excellent condition, includes original storage bags.
Rear window – chrome in excellent condition.
Steering wheel – original, covered with leather wrapping.
Seat belts – original in good condition.
Radio – after market, CD changer located in right rear storage compartment.
Rear speakers – added on back panel of luggage area, nicely done.
Battery – top post, with quick disconnect.
Vents – Driver’s side vent stuck at halfway point, passenger works fine.
Interior lights – work on both sides and luggage area.
Gages – very good, clock works, oil pressure 40# at idle, seatbelt light works.
Tach – works.
Shifter – stock.
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1969 Corvette Coupe:
Interior, continued:
Headlights – work well, both doors open and close with headlight switch.
Wipers – doors opens well, wipers work, door slow to close, motor weak.
Engine compartment:
Block – not original, casting number 3999289. Originally 390 HP.
Carb – remanufactured Rochester Q-jet.
Distributor chrome – intact, appears original.
Wiper/washer motor – intact with tubing and reservoir.
Expansion tank – original type, good condition.
Master cylinder – appears to be replaced.
Fan & shroud – fan and clutch good condition and shroud intact.
Air pump – missing.
Air cleaner – stock type, chrome cover.
Valve covers – stock like, no decals.
General condition – engine compartment appears to be in reasonably
good condition, fairly clean, some over spray on underside of
hood. Rubber flap over right shock area missing, left side poor
condition.
Frame & Undercarriage:
Frame – very good, little rust, straight with no visible damage.
Brakes – reported to have stainless steel calipers added.
Exhaust – near new, 2 inch.
Shocks – possible Delco, fair condition.
Differential – appears reconditioned or replaced, new black paint.
U-joint – inner u-joints appear new, outers unknown.
Rear spring – aftermarket single leaf fiberglass with new mounting bolts.
Spare tire – original carrier good condition, some overspray, contains spare tire.
Gas tank – ½ full, clean with minor scales on bottom of tank, cap original.
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Overall Impression:
This Corvette presents itself very well and is in overall very good condition for this vintage. Engine started easily and ran good, car was not driven. This car has had a lot of good quality work to restore the interior to near-new quality. I have owned Corvettes since 1973 including a 1969 convertible. I currently own a 1975 coupe that just turned 40,000 miles that I purchased new. It was very enjoyable to have the opportunity to evaluate the above described Corvette and I was very pleased to find it in such good condition. I would be happy to discuss my evaluation of this vehicle with anyone who has questions. The dealership can make arrangements for you to contact me.
William Bixby
Serial Number: 31688, built mid-October 1969
Exterior:
Body – straight and clean, no modifications.
Doors- fit well, close solid, no sagging.
Chrome – very good condition, no dents, left rear bumper has minor scuffing on
top surface.
Windows – glass very good condition, no cracks.
Luggage rack – factory type, very good condition, all plastic tips intact.
Antenna – original.
Outside rearview mirror – original, very good.
Tires – private label, near new condition.
Wheels – stock rally wheels with factory hub caps, all very good except
slight surface rust on right front wheel.
Paint – paint code 974, Monza red. Paint color appears a little more orange
than stock, need to compare to correct paint chip.
Pin stripping – minor yellow pin stripping on sides.
Front grills – very good condition.
Interior:
Seats – restored, factory like, excellent condition.
Door panels – restored, factory like, excellent condition.
Console – appears original, very good condition.
Dash – original, very good condition, map pockets stretched out.
Odometer – reads 96,000 miles, appears accurate for condition of vehicle.
Carpet, front – restored, factory like, excellent condition.
Carpet, luggage area: - original, minor fading, good condition.
Door sills – appear original, good condition.
T-tops – excellent condition, includes original storage bags.
Rear window – chrome in excellent condition.
Steering wheel – original, covered with leather wrapping.
Seat belts – original in good condition.
Radio – after market, CD changer located in right rear storage compartment.
Rear speakers – added on back panel of luggage area, nicely done.
Battery – top post, with quick disconnect.
Vents – Driver’s side vent stuck at halfway point, passenger works fine.
Interior lights – work on both sides and luggage area.
Gages – very good, clock works, oil pressure 40# at idle, seatbelt light works.
Tach – works.
Shifter – stock.
Page 2:
1969 Corvette Coupe:
Interior, continued:
Headlights – work well, both doors open and close with headlight switch.
Wipers – doors opens well, wipers work, door slow to close, motor weak.
Engine compartment:
Block – not original, casting number 3999289. Originally 390 HP.
Carb – remanufactured Rochester Q-jet.
Distributor chrome – intact, appears original.
Wiper/washer motor – intact with tubing and reservoir.
Expansion tank – original type, good condition.
Master cylinder – appears to be replaced.
Fan & shroud – fan and clutch good condition and shroud intact.
Air pump – missing.
Air cleaner – stock type, chrome cover.
Valve covers – stock like, no decals.
General condition – engine compartment appears to be in reasonably
good condition, fairly clean, some over spray on underside of
hood. Rubber flap over right shock area missing, left side poor
condition.
Frame & Undercarriage:
Frame – very good, little rust, straight with no visible damage.
Brakes – reported to have stainless steel calipers added.
Exhaust – near new, 2 inch.
Shocks – possible Delco, fair condition.
Differential – appears reconditioned or replaced, new black paint.
U-joint – inner u-joints appear new, outers unknown.
Rear spring – aftermarket single leaf fiberglass with new mounting bolts.
Spare tire – original carrier good condition, some overspray, contains spare tire.
Gas tank – ½ full, clean with minor scales on bottom of tank, cap original.
Page 3:
Overall Impression:
This Corvette presents itself very well and is in overall very good condition for this vintage. Engine started easily and ran good, car was not driven. This car has had a lot of good quality work to restore the interior to near-new quality. I have owned Corvettes since 1973 including a 1969 convertible. I currently own a 1975 coupe that just turned 40,000 miles that I purchased new. It was very enjoyable to have the opportunity to evaluate the above described Corvette and I was very pleased to find it in such good condition. I would be happy to discuss my evaluation of this vehicle with anyone who has questions. The dealership can make arrangements for you to contact me.
William Bixby
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3 things jump out at me on the report. Frame:some rust. You would need to get a good look at that. I assume he's talking surface rust. Non original motor pretty much explains the price. The color looking not quite correct and with pin striping. If it's an original big block car with these issues $15,000 might be in the ballpark. Good luck
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Vettebuyer,
thanks for the more accurate pricing on the jack.
I forgot about Carlisle.
As for bargaining, he should go into the deal as if it needs the following and aim high.
I feel if I sound a little educated on the car I'm looking at then the
seller will hopefully blow less smoke.
When you just are walking by and see something that catches your eye and you start towards it they got the hook in.
A replacement jack from the vendors or Craigslist could be more.
I see you have bought and sold so your experience trumps mine.
Marshal
thanks for the more accurate pricing on the jack.
I forgot about Carlisle.
As for bargaining, he should go into the deal as if it needs the following and aim high.
I feel if I sound a little educated on the car I'm looking at then the
seller will hopefully blow less smoke.
When you just are walking by and see something that catches your eye and you start towards it they got the hook in.
A replacement jack from the vendors or Craigslist could be more.
I see you have bought and sold so your experience trumps mine.
Marshal
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Joe,
I just saw you needed info on block #'s etc...
A very friendly word of advise.If you really and I mean really want this car
then stop by a local corvette club and bribe a c-3 guy whos been at it a while to
go look at the car and pick it apart.
I purchased a driver also last fall(68 BB) but I had some prior knowledge of these cars
and their flawed areas.
A bad frame is more than an oopps purchase. NOM engine not a big deal as seller is not trying to get $36,000 for it. No P/S means your going to work a little turning from a stopped position. Got to drive the car as each one has a soul of it's own.
Marshal
I just saw you needed info on block #'s etc...
A very friendly word of advise.If you really and I mean really want this car
then stop by a local corvette club and bribe a c-3 guy whos been at it a while to
go look at the car and pick it apart.
I purchased a driver also last fall(68 BB) but I had some prior knowledge of these cars
and their flawed areas.
A bad frame is more than an oopps purchase. NOM engine not a big deal as seller is not trying to get $36,000 for it. No P/S means your going to work a little turning from a stopped position. Got to drive the car as each one has a soul of it's own.
Marshal
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3 things jump out at me on the report. Frame:some rust. You would need to get a good look at that. I assume he's talking surface rust. Non original motor pretty much explains the price. The color looking not quite correct and with pin striping. If it's an original big block car with these issues $15,000 might be in the ballpark. Good luck
PS, that said, this car could still be a decent buy.
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I happened to be in the area and swung in quick and took a look. I couldn't stay long so I tried to get a few shots underdneath. Frame looks a bit like another '69 I looked at in the Twin Cities. The paint definitely isn't perfect. It has cracks around the front fenders, and rear taillights. Chips and scratches here and there. Wish I could have stayed longer.
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