how do I eliminate vapor canister...what to do with hoses?
#21
Le Mans Master
Does your state have smog laws that are enforced. 2 summers ago I was pulled over by our provinces smog police. He actually pulled on the hoses, they came off the canister then tried to tell me that I did not have the OEM equip't installed and that I would be given a ticket and be forced to install a complete system including the AIR system that a he stated was missing. I flipped out when he pulled those hoses off as by law he could look but not touch. In the end he gave me a written warning but said that my vette was now in the system and if pulled over again I would be subject to a large fine.
Thanks to Easy Mike, Mike Ward and a few others here they gave me great info, I have the 1972 Corvette AIM easily accessible to me but I wasn't sure on the actual wording in an area as it was a bit smudged.
Bottom line with environmental policy being what it is and more provinces and states looking to crack down I would never remove mine. I am just glad that my '72 did not come equip't with the AIR pump and I have the photocopy of that page from the AIM in my vette at all times. Btw, the ride home stunk as we could smell the gas vapour fumes. Took the vette to a buddy who has a hoist the next day and plugged those hoses in again. Removed the valve cover aftermkt breather and back to proper venting into the air cleaner/carb.
Thanks to Easy Mike, Mike Ward and a few others here they gave me great info, I have the 1972 Corvette AIM easily accessible to me but I wasn't sure on the actual wording in an area as it was a bit smudged.
Bottom line with environmental policy being what it is and more provinces and states looking to crack down I would never remove mine. I am just glad that my '72 did not come equip't with the AIR pump and I have the photocopy of that page from the AIM in my vette at all times. Btw, the ride home stunk as we could smell the gas vapour fumes. Took the vette to a buddy who has a hoist the next day and plugged those hoses in again. Removed the valve cover aftermkt breather and back to proper venting into the air cleaner/carb.
#22
Team Owner
Mashman has the best info, so far. The vapor canister IS the vent for the fuel tank on vehicles equipped in this manner. Also, the fiber filters/screens in the canister are usually the only defective components. And, if the activated carbon is contaminated, it can be replaced with a bit of work.
With a working system, there is no downside to having the vapor canister...except for a few pounds of extra weight. Any fuel vapors collected by the canister are later burned during engine operation; that not only keeps the atmosphere cleaner--it also improves your fuel mileage [by a smidgen].
If you aren't getting any accumulated fuel smell in your garage, the system is probably working as it should. Just leave it alone.
With a working system, there is no downside to having the vapor canister...except for a few pounds of extra weight. Any fuel vapors collected by the canister are later burned during engine operation; that not only keeps the atmosphere cleaner--it also improves your fuel mileage [by a smidgen].
If you aren't getting any accumulated fuel smell in your garage, the system is probably working as it should. Just leave it alone.
#23
Drifting
With some people on here this is normal. I agree to do a search on a simple question is a pain sometimes. Just start another thread and hope someone just comes along and gives a simple answer. Some also want to know why you are doing something and it is stupid if you do it that way, because their way is always right. Remember it is your car and do with it what you want.
#24
Le Mans Master
Rant
We are here to give and receive help I believe. I get tired of certain people (you know who you are) telling us to use the search function. I use the search function and often don't come up with the EXACT answer that I need. You know it alls who have had Corvettes all of your life should understand that there are new Corvette owners here on the forum. We don't know or understand all that you do. You should read this and I'll shut up! Maybe it should be posted here on the C3 forum huh?
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#25
We are here to give and receive help I believe. I get tired of certain people (you know who you are) telling us to use the search function. I use the search function and often don't come up with the EXACT answer that I need. You know it alls who have had Corvettes all of your life should understand that there are new Corvette owners here on the forum. We don't know or understand all that you do. You should read this and I'll shut up! Maybe it should be posted here on the C3 forum huh?
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Deal?
#26
Melting Slicks
We are here to give and receive help I believe. I get tired of certain people (you know who you are) telling us to use the search function. I use the search function and often don't come up with the EXACT answer that I need. You know it alls who have had Corvettes all of your life should understand that there are new Corvette owners here on the forum. We don't know or understand all that you do. You should read this and I'll shut up! Maybe it should be posted here on the C3 forum huh?
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#27
Drifting
We are here to give and receive help I believe. I get tired of certain people (you know who you are) telling us to use the search function. I use the search function and often don't come up with the EXACT answer that I need. You know it alls who have had Corvettes all of your life should understand that there are new Corvette owners here on the forum. We don't know or understand all that you do. You should read this and I'll shut up! Maybe it should be posted here on the C3 forum huh?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...questions.html
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Thank you Mr. Moderator
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#32
Melting Slicks
Or it could be described as putting your car on a diet Seems there are lots of folks whom remove things that they feel (and others) are really not necessary in order to lose weight.... just a thought
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#36
Melting Slicks
DON'T plug the hard line from the tank. It is the vent for the tank, as stated above.
I removed my vapor can 2 years ago. It was a hollow shell of itself, filters deteriorated, no activated charcoal in it at all. I left a section of rubber hose on the hard line that is bent over to keep anything from falling down it. My car is no more fuel vapor stinky than it was with the can installed, perhaps even a little less. Ditch the other hoses, and plug the ports or replace the lines that were tee'd with new lines to the carb. Once upon a time someone posted a one-way valve you could put on the hard line from the fuel tank. I'm too big a link-posting spazz to try and find it utilising the somewhat cumbersome search function.
Carter
I removed my vapor can 2 years ago. It was a hollow shell of itself, filters deteriorated, no activated charcoal in it at all. I left a section of rubber hose on the hard line that is bent over to keep anything from falling down it. My car is no more fuel vapor stinky than it was with the can installed, perhaps even a little less. Ditch the other hoses, and plug the ports or replace the lines that were tee'd with new lines to the carb. Once upon a time someone posted a one-way valve you could put on the hard line from the fuel tank. I'm too big a link-posting spazz to try and find it utilising the somewhat cumbersome search function.
Carter
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I kinda take offense to that because every broken part of my car has been repaired or replaced over the past two years and for you to refer to me as Bubba is both assinine and rude. I'm sure that you are all knowing and can fix anything, but I happen to live in a state that doesn't require my car to maintain the pollution control equipment, so if it isn't needed I thought I would just do away with it. Since I couldn't find replacement parts. This is what I've been doing just so you can see how I've been a Bubba, jerk.
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If you really want to get rid of it, all you have to do is get rid of it, block off/remove all the lines that were connected to it, and install a vented gas cap. Then, instead of the gasoline fumes being gathered in the cannister and burned off when you start the engine, they will be released straight into the atmosphere by the vented gas cap.
In a way, I can understand your logic: why would you want to give a crap about the environment, unless there is some law, and an enforcement body enforcing it, that says you have to give a crap about the environment? Screw the environment! What has it ever done for us, right?
Scott