Look what I drove to work for the first time
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Even though this thread started off as "driving my Vette to work", I'm really interested to hear about the cooling issues. I'll be installing my drivetrain later this summer and I plan on using twin electric fans. First time I've heard about cooling problems with this set-up. Keep us updated. By the way, the Vette looks "keeners". Wish I could drive my car to work, but with Collectors plates, I can't. Can only "cruise" with it.
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Melting Slicks
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Even though this thread started off as "driving my Vette to work", I'm really interested to hear about the cooling issues. I'll be installing my drivetrain later this summer and I plan on using twin electric fans. First time I've heard about cooling problems with this set-up. Keep us updated. By the way, the Vette looks "keeners". Wish I could drive my car to work, but with Collectors plates, I can't. Can only "cruise" with it.
I really think it is an airflow issue and am hoping that by modifying the air dam it will do the trick. I do have all the foam around the radiator, which help a little, but then it's not in the 100's yet either!
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I'm just wondering if the fans can keep up with the amount of air flow they are dealing with at highers speeds. I do get what you are saying as far as having the shroud a distance away from the rad. If you have full flow (no shroud) through the radiator at higher speeds I'm not sure the fans would even be necessary. Of course lower speeds you would need them. If the shroud was easy to remove you could pull it for the drive home as a test. I could be way off, just trying to brain storm. Cooling is a huge issue on the V8 Vega's so I've studied it quite a bit.
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[QUOTE=AirborneSilva;1583130627] having said that I had though about cutting holes, or slits, in the shroud to allow air to flow through at high speed, just don't know how that will effect it at the lower speeds.
On some of the high dollar e-fan shrouds, there are 8 rectangle holes in there, with soft rubber flaps. They allow more air to pass thru at highway speeds, and I assume suck shut when the fans come on and start pulling air thru the rad at slower speeds.
You may be on the right track.
On some of the high dollar e-fan shrouds, there are 8 rectangle holes in there, with soft rubber flaps. They allow more air to pass thru at highway speeds, and I assume suck shut when the fans come on and start pulling air thru the rad at slower speeds.
You may be on the right track.
#25
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I'm just wondering if the fans can keep up with the amount of air flow they are dealing with at highers speeds. I do get what you are saying as far as having the shroud a distance away from the rad. If you have full flow (no shroud) through the radiator at higher speeds I'm not sure the fans would even be necessary. Of course lower speeds you would need them. If the shroud was easy to remove you could pull it for the drive home as a test. I could be way off, just trying to brain storm. Cooling is a huge issue on the V8 Vega's so I've studied it quite a bit.
You've spent some serious time on the islands. Ive never been there, but like most people would Love to go sometime.....
You've spent some serious time on the islands. Ive never been there, but like most people would Love to go sometime.....
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#26
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[QUOTE=c69vete;1583130812]
Thanks c69, I may have to see if I can find a picture of the shrouds with those flaps and see if I can fabricate them. I do think that with the solid shroud and the limited amount the fans can pass that may be a part (maybe large part), of my issue....
having said that I had though about cutting holes, or slits, in the shroud to allow air to flow through at high speed, just don't know how that will effect it at the lower speeds.
On some of the high dollar e-fan shrouds, there are 8 rectangle holes in there, with soft rubber flaps. They allow more air to pass thru at highway speeds, and I assume suck shut when the fans come on and start pulling air thru the rad at slower speeds.
You may be on the right track.
On some of the high dollar e-fan shrouds, there are 8 rectangle holes in there, with soft rubber flaps. They allow more air to pass thru at highway speeds, and I assume suck shut when the fans come on and start pulling air thru the rad at slower speeds.
You may be on the right track.
#27
Melting Slicks
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I did find these two examples:
http://www.google.com/imgres?start=3...&tx=136&ty=120
http://www.google.com/imgres?start=2...&tx=131&ty=106
Yeah this is morphing into a cooling thread but if it keeps my driving to work as it gets warmer (hotter), then all is good
http://www.google.com/imgres?start=3...&tx=136&ty=120
http://www.google.com/imgres?start=2...&tx=131&ty=106
Yeah this is morphing into a cooling thread but if it keeps my driving to work as it gets warmer (hotter), then all is good
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.......oooops. I was stoked about your first drive, but did get concerned about the cooling. If you lived in Maine you wouldn't have a cooling problem.......just throw some snow under the hood and keep driving.....
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I was also going to suggest some relief vents with flaps. Since it keeps cool in traffic it seems like your fans work fine, but since it also heats up at speed, it seems like the air is being restricted. I am sure you could fab up something if that becomes necessary.
I wish I could drive my vette anywhere this time of year. (Jealousy speaking)
I wish I could drive my vette anywhere this time of year. (Jealousy speaking)
#30
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I do enjoy being able to drive pretty much year round, just not in the rain, it's ok to be jealous
Was a big hurdle being able to drive it to work after all the work/money I've done/spent so that feels good. Now to get past this cooling issue and as summer nears I will be concerned with getting AC up and running but don't think I will be able to get that done this summer, maybe by next fall...
Was a big hurdle being able to drive it to work after all the work/money I've done/spent so that feels good. Now to get past this cooling issue and as summer nears I will be concerned with getting AC up and running but don't think I will be able to get that done this summer, maybe by next fall...
#31
Terrorizing Orange Cones
Always fun to drive the car anywhere but especially to work. It's looking good Airborne.
Hope you figure out what will stabilize the temps so that you continue to enjoy. We'll be watchin and post up more pictures whenyou can.
Hope you figure out what will stabilize the temps so that you continue to enjoy. We'll be watchin and post up more pictures whenyou can.
#32
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Thanks Dustup, yeah it's great getting to drive it to work. This morning coming through the gate the guard was really going on about what a great car and he loved the body lines, it was kinda funny he kept me there for a while and I know the people behind me were probably getting upset but I enjoyed it
I'm contemplating putting the fans directly on the radiator and lose the shroud to see if that helps. I have seen others with theirs like that.
I'm contemplating putting the fans directly on the radiator and lose the shroud to see if that helps. I have seen others with theirs like that.
Last edited by AirborneSilva; 02-15-2013 at 08:31 PM. Reason: new info
#33
Melting Slicks
I don't have a shroud around my fans - and I don't have cooling problems.
I do, however, occasionally run rich and that will heat the car up (that and that stupid sticks-occasionally thermostat)
my point is - beside making sure your air dam is in place.
Make sure you're not running rich, lean, and your timing is spot on.
I do, however, occasionally run rich and that will heat the car up (that and that stupid sticks-occasionally thermostat)
my point is - beside making sure your air dam is in place.
Make sure you're not running rich, lean, and your timing is spot on.
#34
Melting Slicks
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Thanks SBG, Lars setup my carb for me so I am not worried about that. I have 34 total degrees of timing and the air dam is there, old and a little damaged but there. I will probably pickup some of that plastic type base board from lowes this weekend to see what that will do but I'm getting more and more convinced that the shroud is not allowing the air to flow through at speed.
#35
Burning Brakes
first off, thanks for your service to our country. 2nd, you should consider going back to the stock cooling setup with factory fan shroud and radiator seals. I'm 70 miles up the the road from you and in the hot Texas summers my Big block car runs 180 deg in stop and go traffic. It was barely 60 deg today and you are running hot?? I learned a long time ago to not try to second guess GM's engineers. Some things they designed actually worked well.
#36
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I would not change the fans you have now. I live in a country that is over 90 degrees 11 months a year and use my A/C all the time and my fans look just like yours, my car keeps at 180* even in the stop and sometime go traffic of Bangkok.
Your problem is the front air dam as it helps cools when highway driving.
Your problem is the front air dam as it helps cools when highway driving.
#37
Melting Slicks
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Hi Gage and thank you! When I got the car it didn't have a shroud on it and had a damn noisy flex fan. I may end up having to go back to the factory fan/shroud setup but with the money I have in this e fan setup I'd like to try and see if I can work this out first. When I say hot it isn't dangerous hot but yeah for the temp it was today it was running warmer than it should. My gauge is not correct but knowing where the needle is when they 180* T stat opens I would guestimate that yesterday when it was in the upper 70's it was running 200 or slightly higher, today it wasn't quite as bad but as you said it was mid 60's.
Thanks again
Thanks again
#38
Melting Slicks
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I would not change the fans you have now. I live in a country that is over 90 degrees 11 months a year and use my A/C all the time and my fans look just like yours, my car keeps at 180* even in the stop and sometime go traffic of Bangkok.
Your problem is the front air dam as it helps cools when highway driving.
Your problem is the front air dam as it helps cools when highway driving.