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Old 07-18-2013, 09:33 AM
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Did the search for expansion tank on the forum, can't find the answer. Is there a pickup tube in the expansion tank?
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Don't know what year you are talking about, but yes, most of C3 have a pic up tube.
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There is on my 73 to pull back into the radiator and the other side of the cap has a
over flow tube on the outside but not on the inside so if the tank fills up it can escape.

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Originally Posted by AvRog
Did the search for expansion tank on the forum, can't find the answer. Is there a pickup tube in the expansion tank?
No. None. Ever.
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If you are referring to a true expansion tank, then Mike is right.
If a coolant recovery tank, then yes.


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Originally Posted by DonnieP73
If you are referring to a true expansion tank, then Mike is right.
If a coolant recovery tank, then yes.


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OP has a '69. No coolant recovery tanks prior to '73.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
OP has a '69. No coolant recovery tanks prior to '73.
I didn't see what year he had, that is why I just said my 73.
You are correct about the coolant tanks, sometimes the names
of parts are incorrectly called something else.
Sorry about the mix-up.

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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
No. None. Ever.
Thanks again Mike, I ask the question because when the system cools, if there is not tube sourcing from the bottom of the expansion tank then the rad would be fed air rather than the fluid. Am I missing something?
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Yes, you promised to post a pic of your set up. Doesn't sound stock.
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Originally Posted by AvRog
...Am I missing something?...
The expansion tank should never be empty. If you empty it, you've already lost coolant.

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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Yes, you promised to post a pic of your set up. Doesn't sound stock.
I don't care if its stock. I have an aluminum rad, no rad cap. A line to the expansion tank that has a 16 lb. cap that would, if required vent to atmosphere. My question is should the pick up in the tank that connects to the rad have a feed tube to the bottom of the expansion tank?
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
The expansion tank should never be empty. If you empty it, you've already lost coolant.

Its not empty and I have been previously running with an incorrect rad. 2 cap set up. I got a dewitts aluminum no cap. Now that I am relying on the expansion tank to work, I want to ensure it will. I'm having trouble seeing proper operation without a pick up in the tank.

The car is a 1969 L68 (427 Tri). I believe it to be functionally correct.
Mike W. I'm working on the pic. Camera U/S due to kids, and I need to fire up my photo bucket account.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Yes, you promised to post a pic of your set up. Doesn't sound stock.
Check this ?
http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/Av...?sort=3&page=1
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there should not be any feed tube to the bottom of the tank. The tank is higher than the radiator, as the fluid expands in the radiator it goes through the small hose into the tank thus the radiator is totally filled with fluid, no air pocket in top of radiator. There is a fill line on the tank about half way which is the level when cold. Looked at the pictures and am somewhat puzzled. Dont you have two small necks on the bottom of the tank? If so are they connected inline to one of the heater hoses? The small neck on top of the tank should have a hose going down for any overflow.

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Originally Posted by MelWff
there should not be any feed tube to the bottom of the tank. The tank is higher than the radiator, as the fluid expands in the radiator it goes through the small hose into the tank thus the radiator is totally filled with fluid, no air pocket in top of radiator. There is a fill line on the tank about half way which is the level when cold. Looked at the pictures and am somewhat puzzled. Dont you have two small necks on the bottom of the tank? If so are they connected inline to one of the heater hoses? The small neck on top of the tank should have a hose going down for any overflow.
Interesting, should my tank be connected to the heater hose?
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Originally Posted by AvRog
Ah. You're trying to force a round peg into a square hole. That's an expansion tank that you're attempting to use as a coolant recovery tank. Won't work.

That style of tank should have two connections on the bottom:


The connections are essentially spliced into the heater core hose.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Ah. You're trying to force a round peg into a square hole. That's an expansion tank that you're attempting to use as a coolant recovery tank. Won't work.

That style of tank should have two connections on the bottom:


The connections are essentially spliced into the heater core hose.
Cool, It looks like there are removable plugs on the bottom of the tank. I wonder if I can pop them off and make connections.
What if I Bubba a tube so the into the tank will pick up from the bottom?

What if I leave it as is?

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Order the assembly instruction manual (AIM); make the correct plumbing connections shown in the AIM; and your tank will function as it was intended.

You would not need to Bubba anything.

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Originally Posted by AvRog

What if I leave it as is?
I'm trying to figure out how you filled the cooling system.
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Cool, It looks like there are removable plugs on the bottom of the tank. I wonder if I can pop them off and make connections.
What if I Bubba a tube so the into the tank will pick up from the bottom?

What if I leave it as is?
You dont seem to be clear on how the tank functions. The bottom pipes should be connected to the appropriate size heater hose and putting a tube in the tank will do nothing.


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