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#301
Burning Brakes
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Final prepping of the quarter panels
I also drilled the holes for the lamps, and added 1/8" of VPA at the wheel well edges to make them stronger.
Gluing them in place is my next step, with SMC Panel Adhesive.
Thanks for taking a peek!
Gluing them in place is my next step, with SMC Panel Adhesive.
Thanks for taking a peek!
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MISTERZ06 (05-30-2017)
#302
Burning Brakes
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Prepping for the gluing
Time for updates folks. First came the prepping for gluing the new rear panels with SMC Panel Adhesive. The screw holes were pre-drilled of course, the masking tape was applied, and when everything was ready to go, the SMC panel adhesive was mixed and applied quickly. You only have 10 minutes or so to get the quarter panel locked at its final position.
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MISTERZ06 (05-30-2017)
#303
Burning Brakes
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The gluing
Then came the gluing. Because of the masking tape, there was no mess to clean up. Just secure the panel, make sure the edges are filled and smooth with your finger, and rip off the tape. Done.
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MISTERZ06 (05-30-2017)
#305
Burning Brakes
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The filling
Finally, the seams were filled with Vette Panel Adhesive, little by little, in about 5 layers over a period of two weeks. I'm not quite done. I can feel waves when passing over with my hand. I will have to address those lows and highs with VPA before spraying the epoxy.
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#306
Burning Brakes
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The rim backspace measuring
Once that was all done, I started to measure what kind of rim backspace I would want for a 10"x15" wheel with 295/50/15 tires. I borrowed a wheel from SBG with a 10" rim and a 295/50/15 tire and figured the tire sticks out of the rim 1/4" more than my 225/70/15 on my stock rim.
The 295 sticks out 3/4" from its rim, while the 225 sticks out 1/2" from the stock rim. That's a good piece of info to have. It's expected since the tire in 70mm wider and the rim only about 50mm wider. I couldn't get much more info out of SBG's wheel because the bolt pattern did not match the vette's.
So here's what I did: I ordered some 7/16"-20 threaded rod couplings. They are 1" long. This way it's like having an infinitely adjustable adapter that is at least one inch thick. With your stock 8" rim, you can now simulate what a 10x15 wheel with a 4.25" backspace would look like, or a 4.5" bs, or 4.75" bs, etc... by adding more or less washers alongside the coupling rods. I used old lug bolts and nuts to attach the 8" rim to the rod couplings.
At this point, I'm still not sure if I want a 10"x15" with 4.5" or 4.75" BS.
I will make my final decision after installing the flared front quarter panels and measuring again.
Thanks for taking a peek!
The 295 sticks out 3/4" from its rim, while the 225 sticks out 1/2" from the stock rim. That's a good piece of info to have. It's expected since the tire in 70mm wider and the rim only about 50mm wider. I couldn't get much more info out of SBG's wheel because the bolt pattern did not match the vette's.
So here's what I did: I ordered some 7/16"-20 threaded rod couplings. They are 1" long. This way it's like having an infinitely adjustable adapter that is at least one inch thick. With your stock 8" rim, you can now simulate what a 10x15 wheel with a 4.25" backspace would look like, or a 4.5" bs, or 4.75" bs, etc... by adding more or less washers alongside the coupling rods. I used old lug bolts and nuts to attach the 8" rim to the rod couplings.
At this point, I'm still not sure if I want a 10"x15" with 4.5" or 4.75" BS.
I will make my final decision after installing the flared front quarter panels and measuring again.
Thanks for taking a peek!
Last edited by RBrid; 06-27-2017 at 12:12 AM.
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#308
Panels
Hi Rbrid, nice job on the rear quarter. Very neat application even the underneath is clean where the VPA was applied. I was not sure what the tape you show on the inside of the quarter was for. Is that where the VPA would go as well as the bonding strips? Very good tutorial also for those (like me) who would choose to do flared wheel wells.
RVZIO
RVZIO
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Norm07 (12-29-2017)
#311
Burning Brakes
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Thanks guys! Glad I can contribute even in the slightest way.
Hi Zio, I used SMC Panel Adhesive to glue the panels. The green tape separates the areas that got the adhesive applied to from the rest of the panel. The tape was actually applied precisely where the glue should end. On D-day I put adhesive on both the panel and car, then I put them together. All within 10 minutes. Then you can take off the excess adhesive and finally the tape, leaving behind a clean job.
If you look closely at the pictures, you can see that the quarter panel splash shield is missing on the passenger side. That's why there's less tape on the passenger quarter panel.
Good luck with changing your panels Dennis. Maybe yours will just fall off too
If you look closely at the pictures, you can see that the quarter panel splash shield is missing on the passenger side. That's why there's less tape on the passenger quarter panel.
Good luck with changing your panels Dennis. Maybe yours will just fall off too
#312
Thanks guys! Glad I can contribute even in the slightest way.
Hi Zio, I used SMC Panel Adhesive to glue the panels. The green tape separates the areas that got the adhesive applied to from the rest of the panel. The tape was actually applied precisely where the glue should end. On D-day I put adhesive on both the panel and car, then I put them together. All within 10 minutes. Then you can take off the excess adhesive and finally the tape, leaving behind a clean job.
If you look closely at the pictures, you can see that the quarter panel splash shield is missing on the passenger side. That's why there's less tape on the passenger quarter panel.
Good luck with changing your panels Dennis. Maybe yours will just fall off too
Hi Zio, I used SMC Panel Adhesive to glue the panels. The green tape separates the areas that got the adhesive applied to from the rest of the panel. The tape was actually applied precisely where the glue should end. On D-day I put adhesive on both the panel and car, then I put them together. All within 10 minutes. Then you can take off the excess adhesive and finally the tape, leaving behind a clean job.
If you look closely at the pictures, you can see that the quarter panel splash shield is missing on the passenger side. That's why there's less tape on the passenger quarter panel.
Good luck with changing your panels Dennis. Maybe yours will just fall off too
ZIO
#313
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Rattle-free T-tops
Boys and girls, here are steps for getting rid of rattles inside your T-tops:
Step #1: Create the rattles by drilling all the rivets and removing the weather stripping. You will leave all kinds of rivet shavings and plastic snap-ins in there. Shake your T-tops for a confirmation.
Step #2: Be worried about those future rattles in your otherwise 100% rattle-free corvette. If this step does not apply to you, skip all subsequent steps.
Step #3: Tape the various brackets inside the T-top so they don't rattle. You have to distinguish the expected rattles from the unwanted ones.
Step #4: Drill a pilot hole. Don't do it anywhere. There is a special place for it.
Step #5: Drill a bigger hole, about 1/2" wide. Vacuum shavings. You don't want to add to the problem. In both steps #4 and #5, it is preferable not to drill through the top of the T-top.
Step #6: Shake your T-top to let the trapped pieces fall out. Do a victory dance for each freed piece.
Step #7: Swear at the last piece that just does not want to come out no matter how much you try.
Step #8: Optionally plug the hole. A 1/2" rubber plug may be an option.
Step #1: Create the rattles by drilling all the rivets and removing the weather stripping. You will leave all kinds of rivet shavings and plastic snap-ins in there. Shake your T-tops for a confirmation.
Step #2: Be worried about those future rattles in your otherwise 100% rattle-free corvette. If this step does not apply to you, skip all subsequent steps.
Step #3: Tape the various brackets inside the T-top so they don't rattle. You have to distinguish the expected rattles from the unwanted ones.
Step #4: Drill a pilot hole. Don't do it anywhere. There is a special place for it.
Step #5: Drill a bigger hole, about 1/2" wide. Vacuum shavings. You don't want to add to the problem. In both steps #4 and #5, it is preferable not to drill through the top of the T-top.
Step #6: Shake your T-top to let the trapped pieces fall out. Do a victory dance for each freed piece.
Step #7: Swear at the last piece that just does not want to come out no matter how much you try.
Step #8: Optionally plug the hole. A 1/2" rubber plug may be an option.
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#314
Burning Brakes
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Prepping the rear clip and quarter panels for a bumper cover
If you are bored and happen to have a C3 handy, you may want to try this:
- buy a bottle of mold release, and I don't mean ammonia mold killer.
- apply the mold release liquid on the flange of your fiberglass bumper cover and let it dry for a day.
- bolt on your bumper cover with your new stainless retainer kit, without putting much stress on the fiberglass if there is a large gap.
- squeeze in VPA where there are gaps between your cover and the rear quarter panels & rear clip.
- once the VPA is dry, detach the cover. That's where the mold release does its magic
- sand the VPA a bit and fill the valley created with more VPA.
- spend another 10 days applying and sanding more VPA until you have a straight flange and the bumper cover fits nicely again the body.
Now you're bored again. But I have more projects in mind for you.
- buy a bottle of mold release, and I don't mean ammonia mold killer.
- apply the mold release liquid on the flange of your fiberglass bumper cover and let it dry for a day.
- bolt on your bumper cover with your new stainless retainer kit, without putting much stress on the fiberglass if there is a large gap.
- squeeze in VPA where there are gaps between your cover and the rear quarter panels & rear clip.
- once the VPA is dry, detach the cover. That's where the mold release does its magic
- sand the VPA a bit and fill the valley created with more VPA.
- spend another 10 days applying and sanding more VPA until you have a straight flange and the bumper cover fits nicely again the body.
Now you're bored again. But I have more projects in mind for you.
#315
Burning Brakes
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Last steps before working on the fiberglass bumper cover
Life is just better with a neat rear bumper cover. It's undeniable.
Sometimes they require a lot of work, like mine.
Before the tough work starts, here's what I did:
- apply the mold release, with which you're now familiar, onto your freshly prepped body flange.
- let dry for a day.
- bolt on your rear cover using the retainer kit, exactly like you intend to do it 39 months later when the car is finally painted.
- compared to the rear clip, the cover will have high points and low points. Just pick the cover position that globally minimizes those low and high points. They all will be taken care of in the coming month.
There, now you're ready for the tough job of making the seam as seamless as possible.
Thanks for taking a peek!
Sometimes they require a lot of work, like mine.
Before the tough work starts, here's what I did:
- apply the mold release, with which you're now familiar, onto your freshly prepped body flange.
- let dry for a day.
- bolt on your rear cover using the retainer kit, exactly like you intend to do it 39 months later when the car is finally painted.
- compared to the rear clip, the cover will have high points and low points. Just pick the cover position that globally minimizes those low and high points. They all will be taken care of in the coming month.
There, now you're ready for the tough job of making the seam as seamless as possible.
Thanks for taking a peek!
Last edited by RBrid; 06-25-2017 at 03:12 AM.
#316
Life is just better with a neat rear bumper cover. It's undeniable.
Sometimes they require a lot of work, like mine.
Before the tough work starts, here's what I did:
- apply the mold release, with which you're now familiar, onto your freshly prepped body flange.
- let dry for a day.
- bolt on your rear cover using the retainer kit, exactly like you intend to do it 39 months later when the car is finally painted.
- compared to the rear clip, the cover will have high points and low points. Just pick the cover position that globally minimizes those low and high points. They all will be taken care of in the coming month.
There, now you're ready for the tough job of making the seam as seamless as possible.
Thanks for taking a peek!
Sometimes they require a lot of work, like mine.
Before the tough work starts, here's what I did:
- apply the mold release, with which you're now familiar, onto your freshly prepped body flange.
- let dry for a day.
- bolt on your rear cover using the retainer kit, exactly like you intend to do it 39 months later when the car is finally painted.
- compared to the rear clip, the cover will have high points and low points. Just pick the cover position that globally minimizes those low and high points. They all will be taken care of in the coming month.
There, now you're ready for the tough job of making the seam as seamless as possible.
Thanks for taking a peek!
RVZIO
#317
Melting Slicks
Don't forget the necessary step of inviting a friend over who tells you that flat spots are not okay
...and about that 39 months. You know the internet will hold you to that
...and about that 39 months. You know the internet will hold you to that
#318
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Thanks Zio. Watching your steady progress too.
That's right SBG. Before you grab your can of VPA and spreader to perform plastic surgery on your body parts, seek advise from a friend. Case in point, my '74 butt cheeks have low points (in red) that I intended to fill to end up with a flat surface. SBG stated that a flat rear would attract too much attention for an otherwise curvy body. He recommended convex curves in both horizontal and vertical directions, especially if I decide not to attach the rear '77 Corvette emblem.
I'm standing by my 39 months, as much as I'm standing by my original goal of driving the car when I turn 50.
I'm standing by my 39 months, as much as I'm standing by my original goal of driving the car when I turn 50.
#319
Race Director
VERY NICE WORK and I also KNOW all about getting these bumpers/flanges to be RIGHT!!!
GOOD JOB!!
Now.... knowing that you did not ask..... and I also understand that you are not done with it yet.... I am only commenting on this because doing body work as I do.
And I also understand... 'to each his/her own'...
I personally would not tape off the bottom area of the bonding seam area that is being filled with tape. I prep much further down and when I apply the VPA...I allow it to go down a bit further than I know it needs to go so when I block it out...the bottom line of the VPA will be whatever it needs to be and often times is not a straight line.
And for those whom may be doing this...when applying the VPA on your bonding seam...make sure (if possible) that when you get it close and are ready to get the VPA finally spread out....start your spreader at one end and make a continuous motion all the way down the seam to the other end.
Not meaning to 'step on any toes'...but those who have used the VPA know that any trick or way of using it to make it easier is GREAT because the stuff gets so wickedly hard.
DUB
GOOD JOB!!
Now.... knowing that you did not ask..... and I also understand that you are not done with it yet.... I am only commenting on this because doing body work as I do.
And I also understand... 'to each his/her own'...
I personally would not tape off the bottom area of the bonding seam area that is being filled with tape. I prep much further down and when I apply the VPA...I allow it to go down a bit further than I know it needs to go so when I block it out...the bottom line of the VPA will be whatever it needs to be and often times is not a straight line.
And for those whom may be doing this...when applying the VPA on your bonding seam...make sure (if possible) that when you get it close and are ready to get the VPA finally spread out....start your spreader at one end and make a continuous motion all the way down the seam to the other end.
Not meaning to 'step on any toes'...but those who have used the VPA know that any trick or way of using it to make it easier is GREAT because the stuff gets so wickedly hard.
DUB
#320
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
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I personally would not tape off the bottom area of the bonding seam area that is being filled with tape. I prep much further down and when I apply the VPA...I allow it to go down a bit further than I know it needs to go so when I block it out...the bottom line of the VPA will be whatever it needs to be and often times is not a straight line.
And for those whom may be doing this...when applying the VPA on your bonding seam...make sure (if possible) that when you get it close and are ready to get the VPA finally spread out....start your spreader at one end and make a continuous motion all the way down the seam to the other end.
Not meaning to 'step on any toes'...but those who have used the VPA know that any trick or way of using it to make it easier is GREAT because the stuff gets so wickedly hard.
DUB
I personally would not tape off the bottom area of the bonding seam area that is being filled with tape. I prep much further down and when I apply the VPA...I allow it to go down a bit further than I know it needs to go so when I block it out...the bottom line of the VPA will be whatever it needs to be and often times is not a straight line.
And for those whom may be doing this...when applying the VPA on your bonding seam...make sure (if possible) that when you get it close and are ready to get the VPA finally spread out....start your spreader at one end and make a continuous motion all the way down the seam to the other end.
Not meaning to 'step on any toes'...but those who have used the VPA know that any trick or way of using it to make it easier is GREAT because the stuff gets so wickedly hard.
DUB
Making progress with the VPA application on the rear bumper. Pictures coming next month...