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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 09:40 PM
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I pulled the front suspension out and bought the VBP build kit. I started stripping and sandblasting now I am considering upgrading the suspension. Is the VBP transverse spring set up still a good choice. Are there better options for 1500 bucks.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 11:03 PM
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Depends on how serious you might be about the AX/RR trackday corner of the performance envelope and/or how tolerant might be your backside to life on the open road with track oriented spring rates as to whether that would be money best spent for the apparent convenience.

I'd ask yourself, on a scale of 1 to 10 - with 1 being a cruiser and 10 being all-out performance - where is the window within which you'd like to operate? Also, consider how much of the one you're willing to sacrifice for the other. The wider is that window and less willing you are to compromise either aspect, the better candidate you likely are for adjustable/optional spring rates.

However, if you don't see yourself adjusting back and forth very often, keep in mind that you can buy a lot of different coil spring rates for $1500. And, should you happen to be or become somewhat hardcore, IMHO you'll wish you had saved your money up for adjustable coil-overs at all four corners over the long haul.

Not trying to tell you what to do. Just some food for thought which I hope helps you make the best decision for you


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Old Oct 8, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bbcngineer
...Are there better options for 1500 bucks...
There are at my house. I would rebuild the stock front and keep the $1500 in my pocket.
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Originally Posted by bbcngineer
Is the VBP transverse spring set up still a good choice.
Kevin
I think it is, it gives you the opportunity to adjust the rideheight as it may please you and you have 4 setting for Harsness (correct word?) witch will cover you for most ways of driving.

Remember to also buy 4 Bilstein Sports shocks.

I have had my transverse leafs both front and read (dual mount) and Bilsteins and I am very pleased with them.

They work fine for me both on the road and on the track.

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Old Oct 8, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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well the transverse spring front and dual mount rear came on my new chassis, a bargain, I was a bit concerned about ride, I love to hear from people who actually have something and have messed with it than someone arm chair guessing....thanks for the tech RickyBerg
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What about this?

Ask Vansteel for a Forum 10% discount

Staying in your budget-


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Screw the budget-even w/ a discount....

http://www.vansteel.com/index.cfm?fu...p=3044&ID=3172

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...I love to hear from people who actually have something and have messed with it than someone arm chair guessing...
Not sure if that was aimed in my general direction, but...

I wouldn't go so far as to accuse anyone of "guessing" if, after weighing considerations such as those I attempted to outline, they happen to hold the opinion that, "Yes, there are better options". Heck, the cost alone is a significant enough factor to cause serious contemplation, regardless of other pros and cons, which is why I believe tho OP posted his query in the first place. As it happens, my perspective having been gained from a good number of years (and no small fortune) spent road racing, I am among those who see better value in putting my money elsewhere.

At the fundamental level, wheels rates are wheel rates, and ride heights are ride heights, regardless of the means by which they result. The system in question is merely a different method of achieving certain rates and heights while offering a measure of added convenience. So, IMCO the real question is one of price to value. In any event, given this is no small purchase, IMHO the OP's decision making process is best served to hear counterpoints as well as glowing reviews beforehand.
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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
Not sure if that was aimed in my general direction, but...

I wouldn't go so far as to accuse anyone of "guessing" if, after weighing considerations such as those I attempted to outline, they happen to hold the opinion that, "Yes, there are better options". Heck, the cost alone is a significant enough factor to cause serious contemplation, regardless of other pros and cons, which is why I believe tho OP posted his query in the first place. As it happens, my perspective having been gained from a good number of years (and no small fortune) spent road racing, I am among those who see better value in putting my money elsewhere.

At the fundamental level, wheels rates are wheel rates, and ride heights are ride heights, regardless of the means by which they result. The system in question is merely a different method of achieving certain rates and heights while offering a measure of added convenience. So, IMCO the real question is one of price to value. In any event, given this is no small purchase, IMHO the OP's decision making process is best served to hear counterpoints as well as glowing reviews beforehand.


Aimed at you?

I found your original post was more a damning the VB transverse front spring through no praise,
You stated tech concerning it that I would expect would only come from someone who has tested it both on and off road, assuming said tester is unbiased and savvy in the world of aftermarket fine tuning of c3 suspension in this case aftermarket suspension, ( I sure am not ),

I have no idea if you have conducted such tests so I was not pointing my comment at you or anyone rather than people I have seen in the past pass judgement on a part or mod with little or zero hands on experience and also in a round about way praising the poster who has tested it hands on and made comments.

In my case my new chassis came with the vb stuff the price I paid for the chassis with all this new VB stuff was less than the cost of the VB parts alone so I did good,

The op is starting from scratch if I was in his shoes I would stay with a good rebuild on the stock stuff because my car is just a street driver, BUT I would trade my new VB transverse front stuff ( back too for that matter ) for the vansteel coil over set up, not because I think it's better but I have other "personal" reasons, but no one is gonna jump on that swap....

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Folks thanks for the responses. I am torn exactly as some mentioned about parting with the money and what it does for me. The car is just a street car so I probably don't need to modify the suspension just a rebuild. Thanks
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Originally Posted by bbcngineer
Folks thanks for the responses. I am torn exactly as some mentioned about parting with the money and what it does for me. The car is just a street car so I probably don't need to modify the suspension just a rebuild. Thanks
Kevin
In my case my new chassis was rebuilt with this vb stuff and the price in my opinion was cheap, not much over what all the vb stuff would cost, but I would have day dreamed over kits like vb or vansteel but never would have dropped that kind of $$$ for something that in my case is only posturing, if people are honest how they use their car 98% of the c3 people here a stock rebuild is fine.
In these cases I like to use AC Cobra kit cars as an example 99% are over built for the street just so the builder can boast and chest thump and only 1% ever see a track....
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