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Old 07-24-2015, 12:28 PM
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Default Motion Moray One-Off Could Fetch $600,000



If the popular ‘60s speed shop, Motion Performance, had any idea this ‘Vette would wind up going for this much money, some 43 years later, they probably would’ve built a few more of these bad boys.

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I pass the old Motion shop everyday going to work...Now just a tuner shop...
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$600k ?? I'd give maybe $6k. That back end looks rediculous.
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is it four wheel drive?
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That is one butt ugly car. I wouldn't give 6 cents for it.
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I actually like these Motion cars but I have a hard time believing anyone would buy this over a documented L88 which are in the 600k price range.
There are more important Motion cars built for sale right now that are far less and are struggling to reach there asking price.
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And Joel is still getting $2500 a pop to just look at one and say yay or nay?

NOTE: I see there's a magazine article on ebay on the car for sale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-MOTION-PERFORMANCE-MORAY-GT-CORVETTE-ORIGINAL-2006-ARTICLE-/381313812821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c8130955

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Originally Posted by qwank
is it four wheel drive?
Good stuff!
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Originally Posted by Detroit Steel
....If the popular ‘60s speed shop, Motion Performance, had any idea this ‘Vette would wind up going for this much money, some 43 years later, they probably would’ve built a few more of these bad boys.
Actually, I think that Joel might have kept this one, and put it up for sale today. That would have been quite a "rate of return" on his money..
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So will this make mine worth more--it has the cool MOTION badges...
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer6369
And Joel is still getting $2500 a pop to just look at one and say yay or nay?
I understand that figure is considerably higher these days.

I have also heard that certification can be "acquired" for the right price.
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Originally Posted by emccomas
I understand that figure is considerably higher these days.

I have also heard that certification can be "acquired" for the right price.
So there can be more documented motion cars than motion ever made "IF" that is true it's not only cheesy but to me makes all the documents a bit worthless.



Yes.. but it's "MOTION" ( which means zero to me )

So lets run it down, 600 K turn key...OR grab a donor and rebuild it as good as stock or whatever turns you on, get a mako front clip fill the dips in the hood, get a mako rear clip and stick in a flat glass rather than the better looking louvers, add the Ecklers old 68-73 bond on rear spoiler...paint it the color YOU desire which might not be yellow....could YOU build it for 600K

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OK, a bit off the original topic, but food for thought...

Some people take common cars and turn them into rare cars (fake, but hard to detect) to increase the value.

Some people create fake paperwork (aged tank stickers, etc) to increase the value.

Some people restamp engines to increase the value.

Now if someone were "certifying" the authenticity of paperwork, engines, originality, as built by <fill in your favorite hotrod shop, etc.>, whatever, how does anyone stop this from being faked as well.

Lets say someone is an authenticating a rare Hooptiemobile, where the certification multiplies the value by 10. The normal fee for this certification is $1000, no results guaranteed. The "quietly negotiated, guaranteed results fee" is $10,000. The only thing stopping the authenticator from accepting the results guaranteed fee is their personal integrity.

The same personal integrity that the people making fake rare cars, restamping engines, faking paperwork, all for profit also exercise.

So someone pays $1000 / $2500 / $5000 / whatever and gets a letter back saying that the hooptiemobile is one of the original rare cars that got built by a certain shop back in the day. Or a letter saying that their engine is authenticated to be original, or their car is certified to be 100% genuine Hooptie parts.

Seriously!

I will generate a letter in any format you wish, saying anything you want, on any type of paper you specify, for $29.95, results guaranteed.

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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Actually, I think that Joel might have kept this one, and put it up for sale today. That would have been quite a "rate of return" on his money..
No. It was found in Missouri about 10 years ago. In fact, Joel did not and does not remember exactly what it looked like when new. He claims to not know or remember the original owner. He just "knows" he built it.
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Originally Posted by emccomas
OK, a bit off the original topic, but food for thought...

Some people take common cars and turn them into rare cars (fake, but hard to detect) to increase the value.

Some people create fake paperwork (aged tank stickers, etc) to increase the value.

Some people restamp engines to increase the value.

Now if someone were "certifying" the authenticity of paperwork, engines, originality, as built by <fill in your favorite hotrod shop, etc.>, whatever, how does anyone stop this from being faked as well.

Lets say someone is an authenticating a rare Hooptiemobile, where the certification multiplies the value by 10. The normal fee for this certification is $1000, no results guaranteed. The "quietly negotiated, guaranteed results fee" is $10,000. The only thing stopping the authenticator from accepting the results guaranteed fee is their personal integrity.

The same personal integrity that the people making fake rare cars, restamping engines, faking paperwork, all for profit also exercise.

So someone pays $1000 / $2500 / $5000 / whatever and gets a letter back saying that the hooptiemobile is one of the original rare cars that got built by a certain shop back in the day. Or a letter saying that their engine is authenticated to be original, or their car is certified to be 100% genuine Hooptie parts.

Seriously!

I will generate a letter in any format you wish, saying anything you want, on any type of paper you specify, for $29.95, results guaranteed.
Well said.
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
No. It was found in Missouri about 10 years ago. In fact, Joel did not and does not remember exactly what it looked like when new. He claims to not know or remember the original owner. He just "knows" he built it.
You're missing my point, by a mile. My point was that if Joel had known that 40 years later, this car would fetch $600,000, he would have built it, for probably around $20K, parked it in his garage, and in 2015 bring it out as a "survivor", and sold it for a $580,000 profit.

Get it??
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer6369
...I see there's a magazine article on ebay on the car for sale...
Fifteen minutes of fame.


Originally Posted by emccomas
...I will generate a letter in any format you wish, saying anything you want, on any type of paper you specify, for $29.95, results guaranteed...
I love it.

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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
You're missing my point, by a mile. My point was that if Joel had known that 40 years later, this car would fetch $600,000, he would have built it, for probably around $20K, parked it in his garage, and in 2015 bring it out as a "survivor", and sold it for a $580,000 profit.

Get it??
Now I understand your post.

To the other point of the 600k figure, it still remains to be seen if this car will sell near that mark. I would be surprised if it gets to 150k but who knows.
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Lordy that thing sits all,wrong ....

Looks like it is going to,the Baja 500
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
You're missing my point, by a mile. My point was that if Joel had known that 40 years later, this car would fetch $600,000, he would have built it, for probably around $20K, parked it in his garage, and in 2015 bring it out as a "survivor", and sold it for a $580,000 profit.

Get it??
Yes, I did get it. Same thought that I have had about why didn't I go into the Chevy dealer in 1969 and order a ZL-1 Corvette, then store it for 50 years. Who knew.

The real challenge is figuring out what cars are the next "hot items".


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