1982 - A/C Blower Motor and fan - C4 set up converted to fit a C3
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1982 - A/C Blower Motor and fan - C4 set up converted to fit a C3
I'm getting ready to replace the A/C blower motor and fan in my 1982 corvette. I've looked at some online and I don't know which one i need to go with. I want to know which blower motor and/or fan i need to get to move the most air. I would love to hear your opinions on the subject and which web sites I can find them at.
FYI - I'm not concerned with keeping the car original. A strong blowing A/C that'll keep me cool this summer is far more Important to me than maintaining the purity of my car. I have no problem with after market products if they're good ones.
Also, I read something, somewhere about putting a C4 fan or motor or fan and motor in a C3, but I didn't understand all the modifications that have to be done to do so. If you've done this before or know how to do it please fill me in as to what I'd have do to make it work. They said the C4 set up would move a lot more air than any of the C3's.
Thanks,
FYI - I'm not concerned with keeping the car original. A strong blowing A/C that'll keep me cool this summer is far more Important to me than maintaining the purity of my car. I have no problem with after market products if they're good ones.
Also, I read something, somewhere about putting a C4 fan or motor or fan and motor in a C3, but I didn't understand all the modifications that have to be done to do so. If you've done this before or know how to do it please fill me in as to what I'd have do to make it work. They said the C4 set up would move a lot more air than any of the C3's.
Thanks,
Last edited by pharlap; 03-18-2016 at 05:58 AM. Reason: spelling and grammer, lol
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Burning Brakes
I'm getting ready to replace the A/C blower motor and fan in my 1982 corvette. I've looked at some online and I don't know which one i need to go with. I want to know which blower motor and/or fan i need to get to move the most air. I would love to hear your opinions on the subject and which web sites I can find them at.
FYI - I'm not concerned with keeping the car original. A strong blowing A/C that'll keep me cool this summer is far more Important to me than maintaining the purity of my car. I have no problem with after market products if they're good ones.
Also, I read something, somewhere about putting a C4 fan or motor or fan and motor in a C3, but I didn't understand all the modifications that have to be done to do so. If you've done this before or know how to do it please fill me in as to what I'd have do to make it work. They said the C4 set up would move a lot more air than any of the C3's.
Thanks,
FYI - I'm not concerned with keeping the car original. A strong blowing A/C that'll keep me cool this summer is far more Important to me than maintaining the purity of my car. I have no problem with after market products if they're good ones.
Also, I read something, somewhere about putting a C4 fan or motor or fan and motor in a C3, but I didn't understand all the modifications that have to be done to do so. If you've done this before or know how to do it please fill me in as to what I'd have do to make it work. They said the C4 set up would move a lot more air than any of the C3's.
Thanks,
I have a C3 motor (from a 77) with a C4 fan attached that I will sell for $20 + shipping. It was working when I removed it and installed a Vintage Air system. If you want it, send me a PM.
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If your motor is otherwise fine, you do not need a replacement. You want the C4 squirrel cage for better air flow.
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Your stock motor is fine.. Get a C4 Blower wheel { Amazon..4 Seasons Brands ..$20 } ... Fabricate a 1/2 inch spacer on the motor flange mount, and enjoy.. You will get 30-40 % more airflow.. I did mine years ago
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-upgrade.html
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Lots of info from a previous thread.................
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-upgrade.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-upgrade.html
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Drifting
Interesting read. It almost, but doesn't quite, answer my question. If the one point regarding the RPM is true, then for a motor to turn a larger fan at the same RPM (i.e., moving more air), it must be more powerful. Fair point though that a new motor (C3 or C4) will run better than an old one of either.
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Thank you all for sharing this info with me. I read the thread that someone attached and it was very interesting. I live in Mississippi and it's hot as hell in the south during the summer time and that's why I want the best set up I can get. I'm going to try this conversion with the C4 fan for sure. I have a couple more questions for you guys
it looks like there's a difference between 1984 to 86 and 87 to 96 on the C4's systems. I'm seeing 87-96 when I looked up C4 blower motors and fans. Is this the C4 blower motor and fan I need to use?
I've got to have a new blower motor too. Should I buy a GM blower motor and use something like a four seasons fan? or will it matter if I just buy a four seasons motor and fan combo?
I also seen that people used 3 different size spacers in the attached thread, 3/4", 1/2" and 3/8" all made of plywood. Has anyone done this with a 1982 and if so which size spacer did you use for the 82?
it looks like there's a difference between 1984 to 86 and 87 to 96 on the C4's systems. I'm seeing 87-96 when I looked up C4 blower motors and fans. Is this the C4 blower motor and fan I need to use?
I've got to have a new blower motor too. Should I buy a GM blower motor and use something like a four seasons fan? or will it matter if I just buy a four seasons motor and fan combo?
I also seen that people used 3 different size spacers in the attached thread, 3/4", 1/2" and 3/8" all made of plywood. Has anyone done this with a 1982 and if so which size spacer did you use for the 82?
Last edited by pharlap; 03-18-2016 at 01:44 PM.
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There is a full size spacer template available from this site. You will have to register to get access to it though.
http://www.vettemod.com/forum/downlo...?do=file&id=51
I made my spacer from a nylon chopping board so it doesnt need painting to make it water proof. I think it was half inch thick when finished. It was made with two layers of the board to get the thickness right.
I have read also that you should also upgrade the earth wire from the blower motor to a larger size to get a little more power from the motor. I have not done this part yet but intend to do it once it gets to the top of the list of things to do on my 78.
http://www.vettemod.com/forum/downlo...?do=file&id=51
I made my spacer from a nylon chopping board so it doesnt need painting to make it water proof. I think it was half inch thick when finished. It was made with two layers of the board to get the thickness right.
I have read also that you should also upgrade the earth wire from the blower motor to a larger size to get a little more power from the motor. I have not done this part yet but intend to do it once it gets to the top of the list of things to do on my 78.
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Burning Brakes
I've had my C4 fan for around 6 months now and not installed it as of yet. The spacer was holding me back. I don't have the tools to fab it myself and the job has always sat on the back burner. I had an idea after reading this thread. I'm gonna use a rear hood seal I have laying around. Cut it to correct length and bind ends together with electric tape. It will become a giant o-ring. I may make 2 and double stack them to get the 3/4" needed.
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pharlap (03-23-2016)
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I've had my C4 fan for around 6 months now and not installed it as of yet. The spacer was holding me back. I don't have the tools to fab it myself and the job has always sat on the back burner. I had an idea after reading this thread. I'm gonna use a rear hood seal I have laying around. Cut it to correct length and bind ends together with electric tape. It will become a giant o-ring. I may make 2 and double stack them to get the 3/4" needed.
Just a thought, but If your spacer design doesn't work out for you, hit me up. I have access to the tools and I think it should be pretty easy to fabricate. I can make a spacer for you, while I'm making mine. the only thing is, it may be a few weeks before I tackle this project.
Thanks
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Looks like a great modification! My '79 Vette has a good working blower motor but I'd like to change the blower wheel. I looked at the 4 seasons blower wheels on Amazon but don't know which one to order. They don't say what cars they will fit. Any ideas?? Maybe I should just find a C-4 motor and blower wheel assembly and make the necessary shims. Are the blowers different on earlier and later year C-4's?? Thanks.
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Melting Slicks
The other mod that a lot of people do when changing out the cage is to go with a heavier ground wire to the motor. If your c3 motor is good, you don't need to change it. That seems to be a common issue with the older cars that was redesigned when they built the C4.
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if you use a C4 Blower motor and cage you still need a bigger ground wire. Adding an extra ground with just a jumper wire with alligator clips as a test i could hear the RPMs go up.
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pharlap (03-27-2016)
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I printed the drawing off Vettemod and I'm putting it into CAD. I'm going to make one out of aluminum or nylon on the Bridgeport. IF I decide to make some would anyone want one? 1/2 inch thick? You pay for materials and shipping?
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