Dip stick gas gauge rule of thumb questions
#1
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Dip stick gas gauge rule of thumb questions
I have a "rule of thumb" question to pose
I put a new sending unit in the gas tank of my "82 a couple of months ago. It works well but the gauge is off and I have been racking my brain how (or even if) to make the "bending the float arm" adjustments on the 24 gallon tank.
Here are the symptoms...
When full of gas, the gauge pegs and will stay above full for about 100 miles as I'm averaging about 17 mpg (go crossfire!) between city and highway.
When the gauge reads empty or at about 300 miles total distance, it requires about 18 gallons to fill leaving about 5-6 in the tank.
When I do the wooden rod "dip stick" check the point where the gauge and the tank seem to read equally is a slightly below 1/2 or if, the gauge was a clock it would apex about 11:30.
My confusion is that the readings are not "linear" meaning if it was 5 gallons off (reading high) at full it should be reading 5 gallons high at empty instead of reading 5 gallons low at empty? It seems that the float read and the gauge are not synched up?
I'm willing to take it apart and experiment with the float level to dial it in but am wondering if it is worth the effort as the readings don't seem to match.
Any idea on the "rule of thumb" bending question? if you move the arm 1/4 inch up/down it will move "X" on the gauge?
Any ideas or am I looking at this totally wrong?
(I could just leave it alone and have another beer)
I put a new sending unit in the gas tank of my "82 a couple of months ago. It works well but the gauge is off and I have been racking my brain how (or even if) to make the "bending the float arm" adjustments on the 24 gallon tank.
Here are the symptoms...
When full of gas, the gauge pegs and will stay above full for about 100 miles as I'm averaging about 17 mpg (go crossfire!) between city and highway.
When the gauge reads empty or at about 300 miles total distance, it requires about 18 gallons to fill leaving about 5-6 in the tank.
When I do the wooden rod "dip stick" check the point where the gauge and the tank seem to read equally is a slightly below 1/2 or if, the gauge was a clock it would apex about 11:30.
My confusion is that the readings are not "linear" meaning if it was 5 gallons off (reading high) at full it should be reading 5 gallons high at empty instead of reading 5 gallons low at empty? It seems that the float read and the gauge are not synched up?
I'm willing to take it apart and experiment with the float level to dial it in but am wondering if it is worth the effort as the readings don't seem to match.
Any idea on the "rule of thumb" bending question? if you move the arm 1/4 inch up/down it will move "X" on the gauge?
Any ideas or am I looking at this totally wrong?
(I could just leave it alone and have another beer)
Last edited by billschroeder5842; 07-24-2016 at 08:54 AM.
#4
Le Mans Master
I have a "rule of thumb" question to pose
I put a new sending unit in the gas tank of my "82 a couple of months ago. It works well but the gauge is off and I have been racking my brain how (or even if) to make the "bending the float arm" adjustments on the 24 gallon tank.
Here are the symptoms...
When full of gas, the gauge pegs and will stay above full for about 100 miles as I'm averaging about 17 mpg (go crossfire!) between city and highway.
When the gauge reads empty or at about 300 miles total distance, it requires about 18 gallons to fill leaving about 5-6 in the tank.
When I do the wooden rod "dip stick" check the point where the gauge and the tank seem to read equally is a slightly below 1/2 or if, the gauge was a clock it would apex about 11:30.
My confusion is that the readings are not "linear" meaning if it was 5 gallons off (reading high) at full it should be reading 5 gallons high at empty instead of reading 5 gallons low at empty? It seems that the float read and the gauge are not synched up?
I'm willing to take it apart and experiment with the float level to dial it in but am wondering if it is worth the effort as the readings don't seem to match.
Any idea on the "rule of thumb" bending question? if you move the arm 1/4 inch up/down it will move "X" on the gauge?
Any ideas or am I looking at this totally wrong?
(I could just leave it alone and have another beer)
I put a new sending unit in the gas tank of my "82 a couple of months ago. It works well but the gauge is off and I have been racking my brain how (or even if) to make the "bending the float arm" adjustments on the 24 gallon tank.
Here are the symptoms...
When full of gas, the gauge pegs and will stay above full for about 100 miles as I'm averaging about 17 mpg (go crossfire!) between city and highway.
When the gauge reads empty or at about 300 miles total distance, it requires about 18 gallons to fill leaving about 5-6 in the tank.
When I do the wooden rod "dip stick" check the point where the gauge and the tank seem to read equally is a slightly below 1/2 or if, the gauge was a clock it would apex about 11:30.
My confusion is that the readings are not "linear" meaning if it was 5 gallons off (reading high) at full it should be reading 5 gallons high at empty instead of reading 5 gallons low at empty? It seems that the float read and the gauge are not synched up?
I'm willing to take it apart and experiment with the float level to dial it in but am wondering if it is worth the effort as the readings don't seem to match.
Any idea on the "rule of thumb" bending question? if you move the arm 1/4 inch up/down it will move "X" on the gauge?
Any ideas or am I looking at this totally wrong?
(I could just leave it alone and have another beer)
#5
Drifting
BUT, if you wanted, it would need bent DOWN to lengthen the arm closer to the bottom of the tank.
#7
Drifting
I agree that the gauge is off and an adjustment MAY cure it. Just remember that as a general rule fuel gauges do not read linear. The first half a tank goes much slower than the second half. I suspect it's to give the illusion that the car isn't using as much fuel as it is. If you just spent $75 filling it up and the level seems to drop immediately, your assumption would be that it's using lots of fuel.
#8
Le Mans Master
I agree that the gauge is off and an adjustment MAY cure it. Just remember that as a general rule fuel gauges do not read linear. The first half a tank goes much slower than the second half. I suspect it's to give the illusion that the car isn't using as much fuel as it is. If you just spent $75 filling it up and the level seems to drop immediately, your assumption would be that it's using lots of fuel.
#9
I have a "rule of thumb" question to pose
I put a new sending unit in the gas tank of my "82 a couple of months ago. It works well but the gauge is off and I have been racking my brain how (or even if) to make the "bending the float arm" adjustments on the 24 gallon tank.
Here are the symptoms...
When full of gas, the gauge pegs and will stay above full for about 100 miles as I'm averaging about 17 mpg (go crossfire!) between city and highway.
When the gauge reads empty or at about 300 miles total distance, it requires about 18 gallons to fill leaving about 5-6 in the tank.
When I do the wooden rod "dip stick" check the point where the gauge and the tank seem to read equally is a slightly below 1/2 or if, the gauge was a clock it would apex about 11:30.
My confusion is that the readings are not "linear" meaning if it was 5 gallons off (reading high) at full it should be reading 5 gallons high at empty instead of reading 5 gallons low at empty? It seems that the float read and the gauge are not synched up?
I'm willing to take it apart and experiment with the float level to dial it in but am wondering if it is worth the effort as the readings don't seem to match.
Any idea on the "rule of thumb" bending question? if you move the arm 1/4 inch up/down it will move "X" on the gauge?
Any ideas or am I looking at this totally wrong?
(I could just leave it alone and have another beer)
I put a new sending unit in the gas tank of my "82 a couple of months ago. It works well but the gauge is off and I have been racking my brain how (or even if) to make the "bending the float arm" adjustments on the 24 gallon tank.
Here are the symptoms...
When full of gas, the gauge pegs and will stay above full for about 100 miles as I'm averaging about 17 mpg (go crossfire!) between city and highway.
When the gauge reads empty or at about 300 miles total distance, it requires about 18 gallons to fill leaving about 5-6 in the tank.
When I do the wooden rod "dip stick" check the point where the gauge and the tank seem to read equally is a slightly below 1/2 or if, the gauge was a clock it would apex about 11:30.
My confusion is that the readings are not "linear" meaning if it was 5 gallons off (reading high) at full it should be reading 5 gallons high at empty instead of reading 5 gallons low at empty? It seems that the float read and the gauge are not synched up?
I'm willing to take it apart and experiment with the float level to dial it in but am wondering if it is worth the effort as the readings don't seem to match.
Any idea on the "rule of thumb" bending question? if you move the arm 1/4 inch up/down it will move "X" on the gauge?
Any ideas or am I looking at this totally wrong?
(I could just leave it alone and have another beer)
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Bill.. it sounds normal to me... The scale for the sender to the fuel gauge was supposed to be linear (0-90 ohms with 0 being empty and 90 being fulle) but you see how that worked out. Senders will put out more than 90 ohms when full in most instances and bending the float will only cause you more issues.
I suppose you could pull the sender from the tank and connect it to the car with the arm at empty, remove the needle from the dash unit and then re-install it at exactly empty but what will happen then is you'll push even further past full when you fill it up.
IMHO,
Willcox
I suppose you could pull the sender from the tank and connect it to the car with the arm at empty, remove the needle from the dash unit and then re-install it at exactly empty but what will happen then is you'll push even further past full when you fill it up.
IMHO,
Willcox