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1981 check engine, no timing advance, low power

Old 04-05-2017, 01:41 PM
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Hello. My all stock original equipment (all smog equipment in place and connected) 81 is doing the following:
Runs great, for 10 or 20 miles, then check engine comes on and it loses power; no missing, just flat and slow. If I disconnect the battery, check engine goes away and it runs great again until this issue recurs. I checked the timing when the symptoms are present and it is not advancing. I also bridged the first two (without a divider) terminals on the ODB1 port and it did not tell me anything, just stayed steady on. One last item, with the key in the run position, but engine not running, a relay mounted on the fire wall above/behind the brake booster is clickety clacking to beat the band. Thank you in advance for any wisdom.
Old 04-05-2017, 03:52 PM
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Motor runs good till it warms up?then I would check the coolant sensor in the front of the motor.that one talks to the computer.could be computer, but I would start with sensor.
Old 04-05-2017, 06:09 PM
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If you are not getting any codes at all when checking, then a sensor is not likely to be the problem. As you know you should see code 12 when checking for codes. Since you get nothing i would start by checking the continuity of the wires from the test port to the computer. If that all checkes out then you may need a new computer.
Old 04-05-2017, 07:56 PM
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Make sure you're grounding the correct two terminals. Since you did not get any response I bet you're on the wrong end of the OBD connector.
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How did you check the timing? Harness to the dist. disconnected?
Old 04-07-2017, 12:46 PM
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After replacing a couple computers in my time, I've found it's not the computer at all.
It's the $180. chip inside that pops..........

The computer it seems is well fortified. But the chip calls all the shots.
I agree, no ''12'', no link to diagnostics.

Use a flat screw driver to bridge the 2 plug in ports at the connector. Can't go wrong that way...........
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One more thing, I don't know if it matters but you need to short the diagnostics terminals before you turn the key on. Good Luck
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I would offer one other suggestion before you throw money at the problem: disconnect battery, remove all connectors to the computer and clean contacts on mating connectors with alcohol and Q-tips, then remove/clean/replace all GROUND connections to the computer.

Connect battery, fire it up again, see how it runs, and again try to get any trouble codes. If you do not get a response of "12" [and any trouble codes that were thrown], you can either buy a new chip or a new computer...your guess is as good as ours as to which is the problem source.
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Originally Posted by Tim81
One more thing, I don't know if it matters but you need to short the diagnostics terminals before you turn the key on. Good Luck
As long as the engine isn't started then it doesn't matter. I have always turned the key on first and then shorted the terminals

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