This 69 - buy or leave it?
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This 69 - buy or leave it?
Hello again,
since a long time i´m looking for a 69 and now i have found this vette, which could be the right one.
http://www.diversionmotors.com/1411_69_Vette.html
well, i´m too far away to check the car personally, maybe somebody knows more about this 69 and can tell me - buy or leave it
the last option would be is to order a vehicle appriser
Thanks in advance
Herby
since a long time i´m looking for a 69 and now i have found this vette, which could be the right one.
http://www.diversionmotors.com/1411_69_Vette.html
well, i´m too far away to check the car personally, maybe somebody knows more about this 69 and can tell me - buy or leave it
the last option would be is to order a vehicle appriser
Thanks in advance
Herby
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Hello again,
since a long time i´m looking for a 69 and now i have found this vette, which could be the right one.
http://www.diversionmotors.com/1411_69_Vette.html
well, i´m too far away to check the car personally, maybe somebody knows more about this 69 and can tell me - buy or leave it
the last option would be is to order a vehicle appriser
Thanks in advance
Herby
since a long time i´m looking for a 69 and now i have found this vette, which could be the right one.
http://www.diversionmotors.com/1411_69_Vette.html
well, i´m too far away to check the car personally, maybe somebody knows more about this 69 and can tell me - buy or leave it
the last option would be is to order a vehicle appriser
Thanks in advance
Herby
Any documentation?
I think the price is not crazy, but you can likely whittle it down a bit.
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looks really nice from here , BUT you still need to get someone you trust or unbiased to check it out in person . Good set of pics but they don't show the birdcage trouble areas. Underneath has been cleaned up (and painted ) a black to make it look nice , from what I can see it doesn't look like they have covered any rust pitting . they have painted everything black which can be to cover bad areas, a viewing in person would see through any attempted deception almost straight away. some new parts on it , new brake line on the rear left caliper , new wheel weights =new tyres maybe ? some paint over the trim plate ,looks like some careless masking . the area just above that trim plate that looks "crusty " is kind of normal to a factory made c3
What can happen is they say its so many miles done but the first owner could have driven it in snow and had the rot set in , even if it spend the last 45 years in a dry climate the rot is still in it . They say it has a rust free frame but they don't mention its an ORIGINAL rust free frame . No close up pics of the inside of the doors as well , they usually show rust(just the outside skin is glass .)
I'm just picking it to death ,it just pays to assume the worst and look for it (rust) , when you don't find it then that's a big hurdle over and its down to handling and mechanical issues ,or lack of . it looks a lovely car and certainly sounds nice.
What can happen is they say its so many miles done but the first owner could have driven it in snow and had the rot set in , even if it spend the last 45 years in a dry climate the rot is still in it . They say it has a rust free frame but they don't mention its an ORIGINAL rust free frame . No close up pics of the inside of the doors as well , they usually show rust(just the outside skin is glass .)
I'm just picking it to death ,it just pays to assume the worst and look for it (rust) , when you don't find it then that's a big hurdle over and its down to handling and mechanical issues ,or lack of . it looks a lovely car and certainly sounds nice.
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Looks like a nice, complete, no BS car for the money. The ad is well written, the dealer uses the term original motor (instead of matching numbers) and there are plenty of underbody pictures. You just need to look for rust in the A pillars and in the body mount areas behind the kick panels and in front of the rear wheels. I would prefer the car was not rattle-canned black underneath...but that can be remedied should you ever decide to restore it.
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Looks like a nice car. I think I saw it on Ebay recently. Maybe I missed it but did they post the VIN? Just wondering if it an original side exhaust car. In my opinion, that would add some decent value (if you like SE). If the car was built prior to Dec 68 (I think) the SE is not original.
Any documentation?
I think the price is not crazy, but you can likely whittle it down a bit.
Any documentation?
I think the price is not crazy, but you can likely whittle it down a bit.
I have to be honest, I like this one. It checks some good boxes for me. Fair asking price for side exhaust car.
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Either that or they do not have the documentation (tank sticker). Still has a lot of other options like tilt/tele, rear defrost, speed warning, PS. That smog isn't cheap either, especially if the pulley is original.
I am partial to original SE cars. I was lucky enough that my very partial tank sticker verified it was an original SE unit.
I am partial to original SE cars. I was lucky enough that my very partial tank sticker verified it was an original SE unit.
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Appears to be a very clean car and nothing in the pictures or ad make my hair standup.
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I like it!
If looking I would consider it a top choice for a very nice driver car.
I don't know if 32k is right for these today or not?
Marshal
If looking I would consider it a top choice for a very nice driver car.
I don't know if 32k is right for these today or not?
Marshal
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Hi H,
This looks like a nice car.
I'm wondering if the price is too low for what the car appears to be in the photos considering it's at a car dealer.
Since it seems this car will be going to Europe I think it would be wise to pay someone who is both knowledgable and responsible to look at the car for you and give you their thoughts. You really don't want an 'appraiser' you want someone to look at the car in detail for you.
You want someone with specific 68-69 experience, not just 'collector car' or 'Corvette' experience.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
This looks like a nice car.
I'm wondering if the price is too low for what the car appears to be in the photos considering it's at a car dealer.
Since it seems this car will be going to Europe I think it would be wise to pay someone who is both knowledgable and responsible to look at the car for you and give you their thoughts. You really don't want an 'appraiser' you want someone to look at the car in detail for you.
You want someone with specific 68-69 experience, not just 'collector car' or 'Corvette' experience.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
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Thanks to all your comments!
That help me a lot,
the last owner was a full-time mechanic and did all his own work.
now i got more pics
behind the kick panel, all i can see looks good, but i asked for pics with removed loudspeakers ... coming soon, and if the A pillar looks well - going forward to the next step
the price is going down near 30k, i think he wants a fast deal - should worry me?
Herby
That help me a lot,
the last owner was a full-time mechanic and did all his own work.
now i got more pics
behind the kick panel, all i can see looks good, but i asked for pics with removed loudspeakers ... coming soon, and if the A pillar looks well - going forward to the next step
the price is going down near 30k, i think he wants a fast deal - should worry me?
Herby
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Here's my .02 of advice if I was you;
If this was me seriously looking for a 69 Vette (really like that color) this car would make my short list at the very least and most likely be at the top. At this point for me all I have to go on is 30 plus years owning C2/C3 Vettes, an internet Ad and some pictures.
I would call the seller tonight and set up an appointment for tomorrow or Friday to inspect the car. I would than get online tonight and book a R/T airline ticket. But I'm funny like that when I get laser focused on a car I want.
I flew from FL to OK (pre internet days) to look at a 66 BB only to look at the seller and say really dude. What a POS that car was for the asking price but I had to look.
Honestly not sure how long this car has been on the market but if this car is what it appears to be based on the Ad, pictures and talking to the seller I bet it will be gone by Saturday.
If this was me seriously looking for a 69 Vette (really like that color) this car would make my short list at the very least and most likely be at the top. At this point for me all I have to go on is 30 plus years owning C2/C3 Vettes, an internet Ad and some pictures.
I would call the seller tonight and set up an appointment for tomorrow or Friday to inspect the car. I would than get online tonight and book a R/T airline ticket. But I'm funny like that when I get laser focused on a car I want.
I flew from FL to OK (pre internet days) to look at a 66 BB only to look at the seller and say really dude. What a POS that car was for the asking price but I had to look.
Honestly not sure how long this car has been on the market but if this car is what it appears to be based on the Ad, pictures and talking to the seller I bet it will be gone by Saturday.
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Thanks to all your comments!
That help me a lot,
the last owner was a full-time mechanic and did all his own work.
now i got more pics
behind the kick panel, all i can see looks good, but i asked for pics with removed loudspeakers ... coming soon, and if the A pillar looks well - going forward to the next step
the price is going down near 30k, i think he wants a fast deal - should worry me?
Herby
That help me a lot,
the last owner was a full-time mechanic and did all his own work.
now i got more pics
behind the kick panel, all i can see looks good, but i asked for pics with removed loudspeakers ... coming soon, and if the A pillar looks well - going forward to the next step
the price is going down near 30k, i think he wants a fast deal - should worry me?
Herby
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Here's my .02 of advice if I was you;
If this was me seriously looking for a 69 Vette (really like that color) this car would make my short list at the very least and most likely be at the top. At this point for me all I have to go on is 30 plus years owning C2/C3 Vettes, an internet Ad and some pictures.
I would call the seller tonight and set up an appointment for tomorrow or Friday to inspect the car. I would than get online tonight and book a R/T airline ticket. But I'm funny like that when I get laser focused on a car I want.
I flew from FL to OK (pre internet days) to look at a 66 BB only to look at the seller and say really dude. What a POS that car was for the asking price but I had to look.
Honestly not sure how long this car has been on the market but if this car is what it appears to be based on the Ad, pictures and talking to the seller I bet it will be gone by Saturday.
If this was me seriously looking for a 69 Vette (really like that color) this car would make my short list at the very least and most likely be at the top. At this point for me all I have to go on is 30 plus years owning C2/C3 Vettes, an internet Ad and some pictures.
I would call the seller tonight and set up an appointment for tomorrow or Friday to inspect the car. I would than get online tonight and book a R/T airline ticket. But I'm funny like that when I get laser focused on a car I want.
I flew from FL to OK (pre internet days) to look at a 66 BB only to look at the seller and say really dude. What a POS that car was for the asking price but I had to look.
Honestly not sure how long this car has been on the market but if this car is what it appears to be based on the Ad, pictures and talking to the seller I bet it will be gone by Saturday.
If its a real side pipe car its a nice deal especially by a dealer. He must have gotten it pretty cheap.
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I like it (a lot). May need to drive up to Manitowoc with some cash and see what happens... just kidding My wife would kill me, though I'd love this car.
Car will not sit for long probably but at the same time if you look at the video, the trees don't have leaves yet and the angle of the sun. So we're looking late April/early May at the latest when the video was taken. So it's been 3 months since the video was taken, hence why the guy wants a deal now. Plus it's probably next to impossible to sell nice old cars up there 2 months from now. Manitowoc is out there, an hour and a half from Milwaukee, 45 min from Green Bay or 2.5 hrs from O'hare. That may play into your favor in terms of traffic seeing this car.
Car will not sit for long probably but at the same time if you look at the video, the trees don't have leaves yet and the angle of the sun. So we're looking late April/early May at the latest when the video was taken. So it's been 3 months since the video was taken, hence why the guy wants a deal now. Plus it's probably next to impossible to sell nice old cars up there 2 months from now. Manitowoc is out there, an hour and a half from Milwaukee, 45 min from Green Bay or 2.5 hrs from O'hare. That may play into your favor in terms of traffic seeing this car.
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With all that fresh flat black paint or gooey spray on undercoating, I'm getting a bad vibe. I'm pretty sure I'm seeing substantial pitting in the rear kickup areas.
This is a dealer, they now how to detail to make stuff look a lot better than it is with photos, which photos do already.
It looks like a nice car in driver condition, #3 or #3 minus. If I bought it, I would probably redo everything. Nothing to lose sleep over for that price in my opinion, especially for a coupe.
This is a dealer, they now how to detail to make stuff look a lot better than it is with photos, which photos do already.
It looks like a nice car in driver condition, #3 or #3 minus. If I bought it, I would probably redo everything. Nothing to lose sleep over for that price in my opinion, especially for a coupe.
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Hi,
"the last option would be is to order a vehicle appriser"
The FIRST thing to do is to PAY a responsible, knowledgeable, person to carefully and thoroughly inspect and drive the car so they can advise you or discourage you from spending the $30,000, plus the many thousand of dollars and euros it will cost you to get the car to you.
There is NO good reason to rush into buying a car you don't know when you're many thousands of miles and an ocean away from it.
Regards,
Alan
"the last option would be is to order a vehicle appriser"
The FIRST thing to do is to PAY a responsible, knowledgeable, person to carefully and thoroughly inspect and drive the car so they can advise you or discourage you from spending the $30,000, plus the many thousand of dollars and euros it will cost you to get the car to you.
There is NO good reason to rush into buying a car you don't know when you're many thousands of miles and an ocean away from it.
Regards,
Alan