How do C3 convertibles fare in accidents?
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How do C3 convertibles fare in accidents?
There is a link in CFOT https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ter-crash.html where a Porsche Speedster got in a pretty bad wreck, killing passenger and severely injuring the driver. My instant thought was... well, that's just a VW bug pan and some steel doors, no wonder they had such a bad outcome.
Then I got thinking, the C3 has pretty much the same safety features, lap belt, no air bags, and fiberglass doors.
Kinda scary to think of what a Sunday afternoon cruise may end up in.
Then I got thinking, the C3 has pretty much the same safety features, lap belt, no air bags, and fiberglass doors.
Kinda scary to think of what a Sunday afternoon cruise may end up in.
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Hi DB,
I think you know!
We're talking about a 45 year old car with a collapsable steering column and lap and shoulder belts.... and that's it. (Slightly later cars grew side impact beams in the doors.)
A pretty serious frame helps, but anything with any height to it comes over the frame and into the driver's lap.
Regards,
Alan
The 2 door, 2 seat car I regularly drive has..."Driver and passenger advanced dual-stage airbags, knee airbags, front thorax side airbags and Sideguard® head curtain airbags." I guess I'd rather be bouncing around the interior of that car than my Corvette.
I think you know!
We're talking about a 45 year old car with a collapsable steering column and lap and shoulder belts.... and that's it. (Slightly later cars grew side impact beams in the doors.)
A pretty serious frame helps, but anything with any height to it comes over the frame and into the driver's lap.
Regards,
Alan
The 2 door, 2 seat car I regularly drive has..."Driver and passenger advanced dual-stage airbags, knee airbags, front thorax side airbags and Sideguard® head curtain airbags." I guess I'd rather be bouncing around the interior of that car than my Corvette.
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For the non-purist daily driver......100lbs of well place hidden steel will greatly improve the safety of a C3.
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I think our corvettes are only slightly better than motorcycles as far as safety goes. Being someone who has ridden motorcycle all his life starting as a teen in the 60's, I believe yourself is going to make the difference of living or dying. I believe 100% in defensive driving. I'm scanning around me at all times watching for others trying to take me out. I think it's the only reason I'm still here.
Mike
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I think our corvettes are only slightly better than motorcycles as far as safety goes. Being someone who has ridden motorcycle all his life starting as a teen in the 60's, I believe yourself is going to make the difference of living or dying. I believe 100% in defensive driving. I'm scanning around me at all times watching for others trying to take me out. I think it's the only reason I'm still here.
Mike
Mike
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I think our corvettes are only slightly better than motorcycles as far as safety goes. Being someone who has ridden motorcycle all his life starting as a teen in the 60's, I believe yourself is going to make the difference of living or dying. I believe 100% in defensive driving. I'm scanning around me at all times watching for others trying to take me out. I think it's the only reason I'm still here.
Mike
Mike
None of those safety minded habits will save me from a stoned asian woman driver.
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The better than motorcycles in one way. People in cars can actually see it. They don't ignore it and drive into the spot that the motorcycle is filling. It seems like every single time I got on the motorcycle, somebody in a car tried to kill me. And if I needed more than two and a half feet of width they would have succeeded.
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Hi DB,
I think you know!
We're talking about a 45 year old car with a collapsable steering column and lap and shoulder belts.... and that's it. (Slightly later cars grew side impact beams in the doors.)
A pretty serious frame helps, but anything with any height to it comes over the frame and into the driver's lap.
Regards,
Alan
The 2 door, 2 seat car I regularly drive has..."Driver and passenger advanced dual-stage airbags, knee airbags, front thorax side airbags and Sideguard® head curtain airbags." I guess I'd rather be bouncing around the interior of that car than my Corvette.
I think you know!
We're talking about a 45 year old car with a collapsable steering column and lap and shoulder belts.... and that's it. (Slightly later cars grew side impact beams in the doors.)
A pretty serious frame helps, but anything with any height to it comes over the frame and into the driver's lap.
Regards,
Alan
The 2 door, 2 seat car I regularly drive has..."Driver and passenger advanced dual-stage airbags, knee airbags, front thorax side airbags and Sideguard® head curtain airbags." I guess I'd rather be bouncing around the interior of that car than my Corvette.
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I drive my C3 like a grandma. I too spent 100k plus miles riding motorcycles, as I didn't own a car for many years while in college. My C3's brakes are.... not as good as modern brakes, so I leave plenty of distance around me for stopping.
None of those safety minded habits will save me from a stoned asian woman driver.
None of those safety minded habits will save me from a stoned asian woman driver.
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Did you read the linked story? The woman who killed the person in the Porsche was Asian, stoned. I was referring to that. And btw, chill out.
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Drunk or stoned...it doesn't matter. If a person gets behind the wheel when they are impaired they are fools, no matter who they are. That is the point that counts.
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These lap belts just make it easier for the ambulance driver to find the body – or the bottom half anyway. The best safety device out there bar none is situational awareness. Motorcyclists (I am one) understand this – the old ones anyway. Loud pipes do not save lives. Being aware does.
I have 30+ years of driving service trucks at all hours, in any weather all over NY and CT. Quite a lot of it in Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, and Long Island. It’s a free for all and even in vehicles covered with reflective decals you would think I have my Cloaking Device activated. It’s like the lines on the road are mere suggestions for sissies or somebody else. I automatically look much further down the road than most and always keep track of who is around me in case of the need for a sudden lane change. I was able to lessen the effect of being rear-ended at over 70mph my seeing it coming even if I had nowhere to go. And if that isn’t enough there’s deer, raccoons and once a gigantic goddamned OWL. Big f***ing OWL…… scared me to death.
I gave up road cycling because of cell phones. Too many people distracted by complete bullshit anymore; idle cit chat, texting, watching goddamned movies. Had a very close call that just told me to hang it up after 20+ years.
Our C3s sit down very low and aren’t always the most visible. I don’t drive like Granny but in a car where your precious *** is quite vulnerable I have a healthy respect and hope to never have to rely on that old car to protect me. Or my wife.
I gotta go knock on some wood or something……
I have 30+ years of driving service trucks at all hours, in any weather all over NY and CT. Quite a lot of it in Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, and Long Island. It’s a free for all and even in vehicles covered with reflective decals you would think I have my Cloaking Device activated. It’s like the lines on the road are mere suggestions for sissies or somebody else. I automatically look much further down the road than most and always keep track of who is around me in case of the need for a sudden lane change. I was able to lessen the effect of being rear-ended at over 70mph my seeing it coming even if I had nowhere to go. And if that isn’t enough there’s deer, raccoons and once a gigantic goddamned OWL. Big f***ing OWL…… scared me to death.
I gave up road cycling because of cell phones. Too many people distracted by complete bullshit anymore; idle cit chat, texting, watching goddamned movies. Had a very close call that just told me to hang it up after 20+ years.
Our C3s sit down very low and aren’t always the most visible. I don’t drive like Granny but in a car where your precious *** is quite vulnerable I have a healthy respect and hope to never have to rely on that old car to protect me. Or my wife.
I gotta go knock on some wood or something……
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These lap belts just make it easier for the ambulance driver to find the body – or the bottom half anyway. The best safety device out there bar none is situational awareness. Motorcyclists (I am one) understand this – the old ones anyway. Loud pipes do not save lives. Being aware does.
I have 30+ years of driving service trucks at all hours, in any weather all over NY and CT. Quite a lot of it in Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, and Long Island. It’s a free for all and even in vehicles covered with reflective decals you would think I have my Cloaking Device activated. It’s like the lines on the road are mere suggestions for sissies or somebody else. I automatically look much further down the road than most and always keep track of who is around me in case of the need for a sudden lane change. I was able to lessen the effect of being rear-ended at over 70mph my seeing it coming even if I had nowhere to go. And if that isn’t enough there’s deer, raccoons and once a gigantic goddamned OWL. Big f***ing OWL…… scared me to death.
I gave up road cycling because of cell phones. Too many people distracted by complete bullshit anymore; idle cit chat, texting, watching goddamned movies. Had a very close call that just told me to hang it up after 20+ years.
Our C3s sit down very low and aren’t always the most visible. I don’t drive like Granny but in a car where your precious *** is quite vulnerable I have a healthy respect and hope to never have to rely on that old car to protect me. Or my wife.
I gotta go knock on some wood or something……
I have 30+ years of driving service trucks at all hours, in any weather all over NY and CT. Quite a lot of it in Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, and Long Island. It’s a free for all and even in vehicles covered with reflective decals you would think I have my Cloaking Device activated. It’s like the lines on the road are mere suggestions for sissies or somebody else. I automatically look much further down the road than most and always keep track of who is around me in case of the need for a sudden lane change. I was able to lessen the effect of being rear-ended at over 70mph my seeing it coming even if I had nowhere to go. And if that isn’t enough there’s deer, raccoons and once a gigantic goddamned OWL. Big f***ing OWL…… scared me to death.
I gave up road cycling because of cell phones. Too many people distracted by complete bullshit anymore; idle cit chat, texting, watching goddamned movies. Had a very close call that just told me to hang it up after 20+ years.
Our C3s sit down very low and aren’t always the most visible. I don’t drive like Granny but in a car where your precious *** is quite vulnerable I have a healthy respect and hope to never have to rely on that old car to protect me. Or my wife.
I gotta go knock on some wood or something……
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These lap belts just make it easier for the ambulance driver to find the body – or the bottom half anyway. The best safety device out there bar none is situational awareness. Motorcyclists (I am one) understand this – the old ones anyway. Loud pipes do not save lives. Being aware does.
I have 30+ years of driving service trucks at all hours, in any weather all over NY and CT. Quite a lot of it in Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, and Long Island. It’s a free for all and even in vehicles covered with reflective decals you would think I have my Cloaking Device activated. It’s like the lines on the road are mere suggestions for sissies or somebody else. I automatically look much further down the road than most and always keep track of who is around me in case of the need for a sudden lane change. I was able to lessen the effect of being rear-ended at over 70mph my seeing it coming even if I had nowhere to go. And if that isn’t enough there’s deer, raccoons and once a gigantic goddamned OWL. Big f***ing OWL…… scared me to death.
I gotta go knock on some wood or something……
I have 30+ years of driving service trucks at all hours, in any weather all over NY and CT. Quite a lot of it in Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, and Long Island. It’s a free for all and even in vehicles covered with reflective decals you would think I have my Cloaking Device activated. It’s like the lines on the road are mere suggestions for sissies or somebody else. I automatically look much further down the road than most and always keep track of who is around me in case of the need for a sudden lane change. I was able to lessen the effect of being rear-ended at over 70mph my seeing it coming even if I had nowhere to go. And if that isn’t enough there’s deer, raccoons and once a gigantic goddamned OWL. Big f***ing OWL…… scared me to death.
I gotta go knock on some wood or something……
When I take my 72 out I go to the back roads away from the morons on the main roads. I don't know what it is when I get into main road traffic but I find people tailgating me, running stop signs, or just plain cutting in front of me. I am going the speed limits for the road and conditions so I don't know if they don't see me, are trying to see the car closer, or are just on their cell phone- most likely the problem. My son's 75 was totaled by a pizza kid running a stop sign and taking off the nose, even though my son had the right of way and tried to avoid him the kid paid no attention and we later heard he was bragging at his pizza store how he took out a corvette.
To answer the question of how these cars hold up- impossible to say. My son was not injured but the car was wrecked, years ago my buddy had his 71's rear quarter panel ripped off by a hit and run, another buddy with a 69 couple slammed gears right into telephone pole pushing the engine & trans into the passenger seat- he walked away, another guy from many years ago ran his 62 into a fire hydrant causing little damage to the vette but it pushed the solid steering box and column into his chest and was dead in the car.
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Put it this way....My first car was a '60 vette in '66.......lost it in a wreck....tail assed light.....
had an '87, but not comfy for me.....sold and bought my '72 vert here now.....
had more wrecks with it PARKED!!!! than on the road in the last 22 years.....serious....
NOW, my wife/family have lost THREE vehicles to illegals in the last 5 years......WIFE got rear ended on our shopping drag...3 lanes each way...at 45 mph while stopped at a traffic light.....'99 Escort.....
she in my '72 vette and the gas tank would have killed her......
and I would have killed the driver behind her....
CASE CLOSED.......
had an '87, but not comfy for me.....sold and bought my '72 vert here now.....
had more wrecks with it PARKED!!!! than on the road in the last 22 years.....serious....
NOW, my wife/family have lost THREE vehicles to illegals in the last 5 years......WIFE got rear ended on our shopping drag...3 lanes each way...at 45 mph while stopped at a traffic light.....'99 Escort.....
she in my '72 vette and the gas tank would have killed her......
and I would have killed the driver behind her....
CASE CLOSED.......
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As far as the Corvette goes, I always thought it would be a disaster in a car accident due to the flimsiness of the fiberglass body but the C3's I've seen in accidents have generally done quite a bit better than I would have expected. I.E. the passenger compartment has been intact despite severe front or rear damage.