SBC running question
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Melting Slicks
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SBC running question
Ok guys this for the engine in my daughter's 77 Monte Carlo which is keeping me from getting on to Giddy Up Go! This MUST stop. There appears there may be several problems, but I am perplexed. General story, and I will try to upload a video of it running. Engine is a 305 with an Edelbrock 550 cfm on dual plane intake. It is cammed, , not sure of specs, but not real hot. Tranny is a B&M turbo 350 with a shift kit, standard torque converter. Has headers. All vacuum lines hooked up. New distributor -all new guts hei. Engines idles nicely at 600 rpms. Revs up fine, no real problems. Occassionaly will sit and idle for like 10 minutes, and then for no apparent reason, shuts off. Restarts immediately no problems. Sometimes will shut off again in a few minutes but not always. Early on put it in gear, takes off no problem. Drove it to local school about five miles away, overall ran fine, -really good at 80mph. Did a uturn in school parking lot, stopped and told someone there we were trying to get ready for a car show, and it cut out (quit running). Restarted, put it in gear, quit running. Did that four times. Began to crank a bit hard, almost like not in time. Then caught, started and gave it bit more gas, put it in gear, and away we went. Five miles back. No hesitation, runs great at 80, no problems. Slow down to make left hand turn into the driveway, it stalls out. Repeat performance of restarting like at school. Pull up in front of garage door, idles fine, no problems. Put it in reverse to move and park else where, it stalls out as soon as putting it in reverse. Does that 5 times. Becomes increasingly difficult to start. Coast backward enough each time I get where I want to be, put it in drive pull forward without it stalling shuts of as I get where I am about to put it in park. IN disgust take out keys and quit for the night. At the end of my skill set. Any ideas or help? Thanks Gotta get this done so I can get back to the Vette. BTW we have named the Monte Miss Obstinate because it has fought me step of the way. TIA
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Andy Tuttle (06-05-2018)
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Melting Slicks
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Distributor is HEI, brand new and so is the module and everything else. Also carb was just rebuilt by "the go to guy" around here who sets up a lot of sprint cars for Knoxville raceway and several dirt tracks and recommended by local hot rodders.
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Burning Brakes
Bump the idle up to 800-1000 and see if it still stalls. 600 is really low.
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Like they said.....check for loose/broken wires first. While it's running wiggle the engine wiring bundle to see if it will stumble/stall....same thing under the dash and at the fuse block. If it doesn't have the bright blue cracking spark when you hold the spark plug wire about 1/2" from the spark plug somethins' failing.
I had a similar problem with a new distributor.....I put the original GM HEI dist. back on the car and it ran perfectly.
EEEElectricity......who knows?
I had a similar problem with a new distributor.....I put the original GM HEI dist. back on the car and it ran perfectly.
EEEElectricity......who knows?
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Andy Tuttle (06-07-2018)
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One advantage I have in having almost the exact same sbc in three of my cars is that I can swap out a suspected bad part with one from one of the other cars. Can you swap out the distributor, and/or possibly coil from your Corvette?
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Andy Tuttle (06-07-2018)
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Melting Slicks
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Like they said.....check for loose/broken wires first. While it's running wiggle the engine wiring bundle to see if it will stumble/stall....same thing under the dash and at the fuse block. If it doesn't have the bright blue cracking spark when you hold the spark plug wire about 1/2" from the spark plug somethins' failing.
I had a similar problem with a new distributor.....I put the original GM HEI dist. back on the car and it ran perfectly.
EEEElectricity......who knows?
I had a similar problem with a new distributor.....I put the original GM HEI dist. back on the car and it ran perfectly.
EEEElectricity......who knows?
One of the first lessons Daddy taught me. Say, I haven't taught Thad that one yet!! Hey Thad... Come here I need some help! Tony said hold the spark plug...….
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Melting Slicks
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Well, the Vette isn't running, but I am sure I can find another distributor around here somewhere. Will put that in the troubleshooting order. Start easy and go to the more difficult. Will keep you posted.
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Even though its new, the coil could be bad. I had a problem with mine cutting out and stalling when the coil got hot. Ran perfect when cold but would stall on the highway. Sat roadside for a couple minutes and it started right up and took off down the highway like nothing was wrong. Sometimes it would quit again five miles down the road and had to repeat the whole process. Then I changed the coil and have had no problems since.
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A.T. My car idled great...I let it warm up a few minutes (95* outside)….backed into the street....it began idling a bit rough but took off fine...made it about 50 yards....it died.....let it sit 5 minutes....started fine.....began rough idling in a couple minutes....died several times trying to get back to my house......let it cool down....it was producing a yellow spark about 14" long with plug wire held near plug.....died again in garage.....tested spark again/NO spark at all
You know the rest.....didn't go to the paint shop (again).
You know the rest.....didn't go to the paint shop (again).
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my vote is for distributor issues...bad coil, hei module or the thing under neath that looks like a castle turret I forget what its called.
put in a different known good distributor and see if all the problems go away.
you know my buddy once had crude that would float up and block his fuel line until the car stalled and it fell out of the gas line...until it got sucked up again.....again and again and again it drove us nuts.....
put in a different known good distributor and see if all the problems go away.
you know my buddy once had crude that would float up and block his fuel line until the car stalled and it fell out of the gas line...until it got sucked up again.....again and again and again it drove us nuts.....
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Melting Slicks
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A.T. My car idled great...I let it warm up a few minutes (95* outside)….backed into the street....it began idling a bit rough but took off fine...made it about 50 yards....it died.....let it sit 5 minutes....started fine.....began rough idling in a couple minutes....died several times trying to get back to my house......let it cool down....it was producing a yellow spark about 14" long with plug wire held near plug.....died again in garage.....tested spark again/NO spark at all
You know the rest.....didn't go to the paint shop (again).
You know the rest.....didn't go to the paint shop (again).
#16
Melting Slicks
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my vote is for distributor issues...bad coil, hei module or the thing under neath that looks like a castle turret I forget what its called.
put in a different known good distributor and see if all the problems go away.
you know my buddy once had crude that would float up and block his fuel line until the car stalled and it fell out of the gas line...until it got sucked up again.....again and again and again it drove us nuts.....
put in a different known good distributor and see if all the problems go away.
you know my buddy once had crude that would float up and block his fuel line until the car stalled and it fell out of the gas line...until it got sucked up again.....again and again and again it drove us nuts.....
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Not finding many Genuine AC Delco modules out there. HAs anybody used a Petronix flamethrower? Other brands that have worked well?
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