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Old 02-03-2019, 11:24 AM
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Default Another Fake 900 Tuxedo Black 69....

So here is a 69 with a stunning color combo and side pipes for sale- vin 194379s734937. Tuxedo black with bright blue interior. The problem is if you look at the trim tag you can tell it is definitely a repo.

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/c...807647891.html

BTW here is an old listing with the original trim tag showing lemans blue exterior

https://www.classiccarsseller.com/20...tte-blackblue/



Old 02-03-2019, 02:04 PM
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what a shame while its a stunning color combo there was no harm of having it that combo with the original trim tag. now its just fraud. this person needs to be called out and ask why. its people like him who gives this hobby a bad name
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Called out and replied on FB Corvette Buy Sell Trade. Ad now changed accordingly

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=corvette%20buy%20sell%20%26%20trade&r ef=eyJzaWQiOiIwLjUxMjU2MzIwMDk1MjUwMzkiL CJxcyI6IkpUVkNKVEl5WTI5eWRtVjBkR1VsTWpCa WRYa2xNakJ6Wld4c0pUSXdKVEkySlRJd2RISmhaR 1VsTWpJbE5VUSIsImd2IjoiYmVlMDlmOTNmYTczM mNmYTU5YTFjYjZkOWY0NTBkMzg5MjQyNGU0OSIsI mVudF9pZHMiOltdLCJic2lkIjoiYzIxOWI3N2E0O TRlMGI2ZGI0Y2FlZDM0NDJjYzViZWYiLCJwcmVsb 2FkZWRfZW50aXR5X2lkcyI6bnVsbCwicHJlbG9hZ GVkX2VudGl0eV90eXBlIjpudWxsLCJyZWYiOiJic l90ZiIsImNzaWQiOm51bGwsImhpZ2hfY29uZmlkZ W5jZV9hcmd1bWVudCI6bnVsbCwiY2xpZW50X3Rpb WVfbXMiOjE1NDkyMjE1NjczNDZ9&epa=SEARCH_B OX

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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
what a shame while its a stunning color combo there was no harm of having it that combo with the original trim tag. now its just fraud. this person needs to be called out and ask why. its people like him who gives this hobby a bad name
I completely agree. Hopefully the original tag is still with the owner. This was obviously changed within the last few years.

If this car is a real sidepipe car its still worth in the ballpark of what the seller is asking provided the original tag is with the car. If not then it really is a shame. A potentially good original car ruined by stupidity. Still a nice car, just not original anymore.
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Well while we are at it. I ran across this one on a Vette for sale 1971:


The "C" and the "9" are off and I can see the pop rivet shaft left in the rivet,correct? Are these reproducing or I am paying more attention??? Thanks Ike
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Appears to be poorly attached....
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Beside the fact it looks like it was made yesterday
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Does this tag look legit?

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in the craigslist ad the owner gives full disclosure.. says originally blue and declares the tag swap.
why is that fraud?
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Until you emboss or stamp reproduction on that trim tag your relying on money hungry people to tell the truth
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette




Does this tag look legit?
Its hard to see in that pic. I would need to look at it better but I think that one is legit. The C looks ok and the codes have the factory look. The repros are always really sharply stamped.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by joewill
in the craigslist ad the owner gives full disclosure.. says originally blue and declares the tag swap.
why is that fraud?
“Was repainted black over the original exterior LeMans Blue, and the trim tag replaced to show the current, albeit not original, colors prior to me owning the car.”

How could this statement possibly be construed as fraud?
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I think the ad was edited to add that info. I dont remember it in the original ad
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Originally Posted by vettebuyer6369


“Was repainted black over the original exterior LeMans Blue, and the trim tag replaced to show the current, albeit not original, colors prior to me owning the car.”

How could this statement possibly be construed as fraud?
I was also wondering about the fraud term. I made my 69 black instead of silver but have no intentions on removing trim tag. If I did to reflect the new color I would certainly give the buyer the original tag. I think the term tuxedo black needs some clarification I mean I painted my car black period. Not everyone is money hungry maybe just a fair price based on the amount of work and quality of work.
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Bet the majority of buyers go by condition and inital impression and could give a hoot what some tag says unless the were buying an L88 or the like.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Bet the majority of buyers go by condition and inital impression and could give a hoot what some tag says unless the were buying an L88 or the like.
so why did the builder buy a fake tag to fool someone. anyone who is spending money on a collector car better be checking numbers.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Bet the majority of buyers go by condition and inital impression and could give a hoot what some tag says unless the were buying an L88 or the like.
Buyers can think what they like, but if they think they are buying a real code 900 car for what a color change car should sell for, they are going to be disappointed.

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Old 02-04-2019, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rvzio
I was also wondering about the fraud term. I made my 69 black instead of silver but have no intentions on removing trim tag. If I did to reflect the new color I would certainly give the buyer the original tag. I think the term tuxedo black needs some clarification I mean I painted my car black period. Not everyone is money hungry maybe just a fair price based on the amount of work and quality of work.
But Tuxedo Black isn’t a term, it’s a paint color. It could be on a car originally or painted on a car that started out silver. The clarification needs to be whether the car was born that color or not, however you choose to clarify it.
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I'm wondering if the seller will take some $100 bills I have altered-

Just because they stated as $10 bills and I reprinted them - they look great...Plus Franklin is more popular than Hamilton....

Sorry- anyway you want to look at it- I say it's fraud.

Trying to dupe an untrained eye- just like a $10 that looks like a $100 to an unsuspecting person.
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I started this post because the add said original colors and I noticed the repo trim tag. I found the old listing showing the original tag. Once the seller was confronted with the discrepancy he changed the listing to reflect the repo tag, but it wasn't listed like that originally. Also, there is nothing wrong with changing the color of your car to black if you like. The issue is when an owner or a future dealer/owner changes it by adding a repo trim tag then misrepresents it as a original.

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