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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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To bench bleed do I need to get 2 brake lines and bend them back into the mc, or is there some kind of kit you can buy.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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When I purchased my new master cylinder for my '77, it came with two plastic fittings and short tubing to bench bleed it.

You could purchase a short piece of brake line and bend it to suit.

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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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i have a question about bench bleeding a MC. can you bench bleed it after you bolt it on the car if you can get it level by jacking the rear of the car up?
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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I suppose you probably COULD bench bleed the master cylinder in the car; however, it requires a lot of pushes on the brake pedal and someone to make sure the brake fluid doesn't splash all over. I did mine on the bench using a phillips screwdriver - got a sore arm because I just couldn't believe it when all the bubbles stopped coming up and kept depressing the thing. My new master cylinder also came with plastic fittings and hoses to go back up into the cylinder.
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I don't trust the plastic fittings and plastic hoses because they always seem to leak fluid, and the hoses tend to fall out ot the reservoir. If they are leaking fluid they are also letting air in. Someone on the forum made a bleeder setup using metal fittings and lines. That setup, while being more time-consuming to fabricate and specific to one fitting size, looks like a much better way to bench bleed the MC. Just MHO.



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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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use the two plugs that come in the cylinder, when you bench bleed the cylinder, pump until the bubbles stop. your done.

done this for 30 years in the shop, daily, works great, and no hoses to worry about.
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I got the MC from VBP and the only thing that came with it was 2 plastic plugs covering the brake line holes. I see no way of using them.

Another question is does any one know the hole size. so I can pic up 2 brake lines.
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I bought a kit from one of the chain auto part houses. It cost less than $5. It was in a plastic bag with the required plastic hoses and simple to use.
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I just bought to short steel brake lines from Advance Auto. They were already flared and had fittings installed. I just cut off one end and installed them on the MC, then bent them to where I wanted them.

I agree about the bench versus in-car. Clamp it in a vice and be patient. There's a LOT of air in there!
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Hey one more question, The rubber boot on the end, do I need to take this off the MC before I bench bleed and even install?
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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One other thing you might try that has worked well for me....

After you tire your arm out by pumping the piston on the bench,
if you have time (don't need to drive the car the next day) and/or
can excercise a little patience, just leave the master cylinder there
on the bench for 24-48 hours or more and occaisonally walk by and
give it a few pumps. Left on it's own, any air bubbles should "gather"
over time and make it easier to evacuate them by excercising
the piston several times.

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Originally Posted by kodaclr
Hey one more question, The rubber boot on the end, do I need to take this off the MC before I bench bleed and even install?
I removed it and replaced it. Is it necessary? Probably not, but I paid for it, so I'm using it!
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Originally Posted by kodaclr
I got the MC from VBP and the only thing that came with it was 2 plastic plugs covering the brake line holes. I see no way of using them.

Another question is does any one know the hole size. so I can pic up 2 brake lines.
Mine are 3/8-24. If you buy one of the plastic kits as mentioned above, which is what I would do, they usually have an assortment of fittings in them. I've never used anything but the plastic bleeders and have never had any problems.

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Thanks for all the suggestions
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Originally Posted by LIQUIDDRAGON
i have a question about bench bleeding a MC. can you bench bleed it after you bolt it on the car if you can get it level by jacking the rear of the car up?
My 1968 MC has bleeders built into it.
These bleeders appear to be added to the MC to bleed the MC hydraulic chambers. Actually since the MC is positioned in the car with an upward tildt, it appears that these bleeders will remove air from the MC just as it is bolted in the car. That's what I've done.

Yes... I think that if you have a MC without the 1968 bleeders I've described, you can "bench" bleed your MC by jacking up the car so that the MC is horizontal. I think this is the way to go. If you've renewed eveything with your brake system and tighened up everythink to see you it fits, you probably don't want to remove yuor MC just to bleed it. If you can do it in the car, this is best.

I did ther MC bleed procedure on my 68 Corvette with the MC installed. I used the 68 MC bleeders to remove air. Later MC's will not have these bleeders in the Mastr Cylinder. :

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