thats assuming he clutch dumps it. Most owners of an STI would not be willing clutch dump over 2000rpm or so (in which case turbo lag is still very real) it unless money was involved. the strain on the drivetrain is very real and many STI's are in the shop because of either poor clutch dumps or frequent clutch dumps wearing out the tranny. i had a friend that worked at a dealship who said they were turning some people away on warranty claims because it was clear from the transmission and clutch wear that they launch the car too frequently.

 

meh some of you guys are very closed minded (no offense) referring to an Evo or an STI as "rice" is just not right. "Rice" are the cars you see with pep-boy spoiler on front wheel drive cars with a loud *** muffler and a bunch of lighting. The Evo and STI are just simply bad (in a good way) cars! and one could not call an STI rice any more than a Porsche as they share the same engine and basic drivetrain (this might not be true, but this is what i recall). I personally like turbo charged cars just as much as US Muscle, but engineering marvels (which both of these cars are) should not be teased and grouped with 1980 civics with hubcap spinners and 3 inch exhaust on a 1.8 litre n/a motor.

 

My son has an SRT4 with a lot of work done to it and it dynoed at 420hp at the wheels. He runs mid 11's at the track with slicks. With street tires he can't hook up from a standing start, but from a 30 roll it's deadly. It's amazing what you can get out of these 4 bangers.
I always tell him that his car may be faster, but my '82 looks faster

 

Noticed this thread a little late, but here is mine


Full titanium turbo-back, dyno-tune, 310AWHP. Its definatly a fun ride.

 

None of the STi owners i know are afraid to drop the clutch. These things are made to be beat on. Mine sees 5400k clutch dumps quite frequently. Tire spin for a fraction of a second and it FLIES. While there are failures, these take a huge amount of abuse. If i did the same thing with almost any other car as with the STi, i can garuantee that the STi will outlast almost any other car.

 

I'm Batman You mean the three tranny mounts and ONE motor mount? LOL. I had the tranny out a couple months ago, man that was fun to do by myself on jackstands... I will fear no crank-walk...I have an Auto which is coming along nicely... Precision 9.5" billet multi disc 3600rpm stall, translab shift kit, improved OD clutch and the electronic controller is on the way for push button shift control. I can build 15lbs of boost from a standing start in less than 2 seconds (logged in DSMLink) and launch at 3500-3800rpm. The EVO III is boost spiking to about 18-19lbs and flowing 36lbs/min of air. Pretty fun. Its been a fun car to work with, I caught a dieing balance belt just in time. Apparently previous owner was too lazy to replace it when timing belt was done, it was the original and all cracked...dodged a bullet there!

 

Not to be mean but...Can you say FUGLY!?!?!

My nephew is a huge tuner kid & I think it's neat. It's just like muscle car days all over again for a new economy-minded generation of hotrodders. That being said, Those Talons, Subaru's, Mitsu Evo things are all as handsome as a turd in a sweater

Seriously, the style, sound & torque of an old 40 year old vette stomps all over those futt-bugly ricers (I say this with sincere respect for regions which produce quality 4 cylinders & rice).
Regardless...Ugly.


Just sayin'

 

Vette80regan: Opinions are like a**holes... I think the STIs look good. I think many later C3s look aweful... just opinions.

 

An evo or wrx looks like a Malibu with a scoop and spoilers.



See, add a scoop and spoiler and you have an Evo or STi.

 

No they're not. Mine are gospel carved in stone!


Seriously though, should the WRX above have its rear "fin" removed, front fender flares removed and the periscope chopped off the hood, it could honestly pass for a Corolla or a 4 door Topaz.
That's not an opinion, that's just the similarities.

 

Haha, you beat me to it. I get a good laugh everytime I see one of those things.

 

dennis, i know how it goes because i have plenty of friends who work in shops and i know some of them cannot resist 'at least' to hear at the engine revving if the car is very interesting, i personally never ever revved one of my cars if not properly warmed up...why should i make possible that somebody else does just for fun? look, i can understand this iussue, enthusiasm for cars is like an illness sometimes so i dont accuse them of anything, it's just a preventive matter not to leave keys hanging around...or if the shop need the keys for security (in case of a fire they will need to move it...) i leave them personally to the owner saying what you can already image what i'd say

when bought my new tvr exactly 10 years ago, the dealer was in northern italy (and i lived in the south) at about 500 miles from my home, i knew this guy was the type who didnt care too much about if a car was warm or already runned in...he just switched engines on and go at full throttle...so, just in case, the day before the lorry transporting my new car arrived to the dealer from UK, i drove there (with the car i was to give him as part exchange) sleep there overnight and in the morning i waited for the lorry with my car to arrive...i had to jump into the lorry and take my new car off the lorry myself!!!!

 

I never did get that motor mount setup. I liked the 1G setup, it seemed much more stable.

I'm not much of a fan of automatics - I had solid shifter bushings in my '91 (and later the '90, it got the '91's transmission and shifter). The 5-speed used in that setup was a shifting dream.

 

I nailed it on a freeway onramp yesterday, trying to impress my friend who was toying with me in his 6.6L turbo diesel 2500... 1st gear was worthless, couldn't hookup, shifted into 2nd, same story but I finally passed him like he was standing still when I hooked up in third. This also explains why I lost to a stock 2000 vert Mustang in a short race off the line. So, tires -> ...Time for some offset trailing arms and wider wheels.

Also, I've beaten an STI on the freeway. He was faster than I thought he'd be though. So I'm with redshark, time for some upgrades.

I test drove a WRX with my friend, we were comparing it to the SRT4, he was interested in both. Anyways, I was very unimpressed. But the STI on the other hand, is a badass lil car.

 

Not me... Never had a problem with anything that I ran up against in the STi. It wasn't the fastest car on the planet, but for the roads around here, a rally car knock off is a pretty smart choice.

Of course, the Z06 is faster and handles better than the STi which gives me even less to worry about these days.

As far as the styling, that's a personal preference and if you don't like it, well, you just don't like it. As far as performance goes though, the STi does very well for a four door sedan.

Regards,

Stan Falenski

 

Don't get me wrong, I come from a long line of VW nuts in my family. I've had a few V-Dubs (a 67 Baja which could pull tires off the ground) and a Jetta GTi which was tuned. Both of these cars would offer me plenty of "ha-ha's" at old V8 muscle cars. The bug could crush any V8 off the line. Plus, our Jetta was just a blast to drive through the West Hills here in Portland. I couldn't drive my C3 the same way I could aggressively drive that car on some of those skinny little passes.

I also understand that the STi, WRX and Evo's are not just another 4-banger. Those cars have been engineered with extreme performance in mind. You may remember my post from a few months ago where I got my arsh handed to me by a Neon XTWZN#&$) "whatever accronym" thingy. He passed me by like I was standing still


regardless, the Shark C3 looks cooler, sounds cooler, is rear wheel drive and a whole hellofalot more fun to drive and own for me than any of the imports/4 cylinder cars I've ever owned (for now at least )

AP

 

I have a PT Cruiser GT Turbo for winter beater, it comes stock with 215HP and 245TQ, it a nice car but the power dosen't impress me. I can get a bigger turbo for it and get 500-600WHP out of it, big deal, it's still a PT Cruiser.

What am I doing this winter ? Building a 427ci small block chevy in my basement to put in my Vette, now that's

 

what block are you using as a foundation?

 

I was wondering the same thing...a 427 SBC?

 

This is my friends STI next to my car. He has boost controller, turbo back exhaust, and turbo timer. in the 1/4mile he took me by a car (all wheel drive is cheating ), from a 30mph roll we were dead even until I pulled him by a half a car on top end. I have a 350 with cam,heads, exhaust, and gears. I'm happy with the results. 30years diff in tech, but old school power still held up.