Pros & Cons of a Tri-power vs 4 barrel?
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I had three duces on my 67 Goat. Easy to set up cause you only had to maintain the center carb. Ran like a scalded dog when the linkage kicked in those other two carbs. The 4-speed felt like you had hit the passing gear in a automatic when you went from 2 to 6 bbls. But I eventually ran into a BB 71 vette w/4bbl that blew me away. So like Lars says, early on they were the thing to have, once technology passed them by they became marketing fodder.
BUT....
There was no subsitute for the WOW factor when you popped the hood.
4 bbls are boring to look at relatively speaking.
BUT....
There was no subsitute for the WOW factor when you popped the hood.
4 bbls are boring to look at relatively speaking.
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My buddy is running a factory 3x2 setup on his nowhere near stock 66 427. It's putting out well over 600Hp. I will say, its a heck of a kick when the two outboard carbs kick in. That said, the engine builder said and we all agree that a good 4 barrel would yeild more power, but it's hard to deny the visual appeal of the tripower.
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I am presently installing a tri-power setup onto my 68 BB. Changed from a highrise 375 HP Camaro intake DP Holley setup to this. Haven't driven it so far, so can't speak about this point, but I suspect better fuel econnomy due to the relatively small primary of just over 300 CFM still allowing mega power with both large 2ndaries opening.
Also I don't know of any other tripower Vette in my area, hell country.
Mid April, I should be able to drive it.
I probably made a good deal with it with just 1000 Euro for the setup minus air filter. Got it because previous owner couldn't get it to run correctly and the reason probably was the vacuum connection of the 2ndary cans directly to the primary, with blocked 2ndary vacuum ports , acting like a DP. ( with no acceleration valves ).
Günther
I am presently installing a tri-power setup onto my 68 BB. Changed from a highrise 375 HP Camaro intake DP Holley setup to this. Haven't driven it so far, so can't speak about this point, but I suspect better fuel econnomy due to the relatively small primary of just over 300 CFM still allowing mega power with both large 2ndaries opening.
Also I don't know of any other tripower Vette in my area, hell country.
Mid April, I should be able to drive it.
I probably made a good deal with it with just 1000 Euro for the setup minus air filter. Got it because previous owner couldn't get it to run correctly and the reason probably was the vacuum connection of the 2ndary cans directly to the primary, with blocked 2ndary vacuum ports , acting like a DP. ( with no acceleration valves ).
Günther
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Yeah, it's not a 6-bbl, but 4-bbls need not be boring. The nickle-silver bodies look pretty nice, especially on modified carbs.
The new HP-series Holleys without chokes add to the wow if the air cleaner is removed.
The new HP-series Holleys without chokes add to the wow if the air cleaner is removed.
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Thanks everyone for the great info, I learned a bunch of stuff I didn't know.
Curious about one thing though, (forgive me but I haven't checked into this much, since I been trying to run down originals) are there good aftermarket tri-power set-ups for our vettes? Are they more technologically advanced and easier to tune vs old school if so? Can you use an original 3x2 air cleaner with it? And whats price like?
Thanks again
Curious about one thing though, (forgive me but I haven't checked into this much, since I been trying to run down originals) are there good aftermarket tri-power set-ups for our vettes? Are they more technologically advanced and easier to tune vs old school if so? Can you use an original 3x2 air cleaner with it? And whats price like?
Thanks again
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As far as I know, the only aftermarket 3X2 setup available is the Barry Grant Six-Shooter. They make two big block applications...oval and rectangular port versions.
I don't know if the triangular air cleaner fits. No matter what...the Barry Grant stuff is **** hot.
I don't know if the triangular air cleaner fits. No matter what...the Barry Grant stuff is **** hot.
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Isn't the BG setup a DP setup ?
The original Vette setup is a vacuum setup .
Also the BG is just as expensive as a original setup , so why not go for the original ? ( unless you want to race or so ).
Günther
Isn't the BG setup a DP setup ?
The original Vette setup is a vacuum setup .
Also the BG is just as expensive as a original setup , so why not go for the original ? ( unless you want to race or so ).
Günther
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3x2 vs. a std. Single 4bl…
There are pros and cons to either setup.
Single 4bls are generally less expensive to purchase.
There are more options available to fit different engines, and looks.
3x2 setups can be more intimidating.
They can also give better fuel economy than a standard 4bl carburetor since the center 2bl carburetor you’re driving around on is usually smaller than the primary 2bl’s of a 4bl carburetor.
Once you get into a full race application, or higher RPM setup there are many more 4bl intake manifolds available to be able to find one that is optimal.
We use mechanical linkage carburetors, on our Six-Shooter to get the best overall drivability, and make the tuning as simple as possible.
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There are pros and cons to either setup.
Single 4bls are generally less expensive to purchase.
There are more options available to fit different engines, and looks.
3x2 setups can be more intimidating.
They can also give better fuel economy than a standard 4bl carburetor since the center 2bl carburetor you’re driving around on is usually smaller than the primary 2bl’s of a 4bl carburetor.
Once you get into a full race application, or higher RPM setup there are many more 4bl intake manifolds available to be able to find one that is optimal.
We use mechanical linkage carburetors, on our Six-Shooter to get the best overall drivability, and make the tuning as simple as possible.
Technical Support,
Barry Grant, Inc.
www.barrygrant.com
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3x2 vs. a std. Single 4bl…
There are pros and cons to either setup.
Single 4bls are generally less expensive to purchase.
There are more options available to fit different engines, and looks.
3x2 setups can be more intimidating.
They can also give better fuel economy than a standard 4bl carburetor since the center 2bl carburetor you’re driving around on is usually smaller than the primary 2bl’s of a 4bl carburetor.
Once you get into a full race application, or higher RPM setup there are many more 4bl intake manifolds available to be able to find one that is optimal.
We use mechanical linkage carburetors, on our Six-Shooter to get the best overall drivability, and make the tuning as simple as possible.
Technical Support,
Barry Grant, Inc.
www.barrygrant.com
There are pros and cons to either setup.
Single 4bls are generally less expensive to purchase.
There are more options available to fit different engines, and looks.
3x2 setups can be more intimidating.
They can also give better fuel economy than a standard 4bl carburetor since the center 2bl carburetor you’re driving around on is usually smaller than the primary 2bl’s of a 4bl carburetor.
Once you get into a full race application, or higher RPM setup there are many more 4bl intake manifolds available to be able to find one that is optimal.
We use mechanical linkage carburetors, on our Six-Shooter to get the best overall drivability, and make the tuning as simple as possible.
Technical Support,
Barry Grant, Inc.
www.barrygrant.com
Does it fit under a stock hood?
Can you use stock (triangular) air cleaner?
Does the vaccum hoses hook up similar to original?
Just curious, but what is the difference between old school and the demon Sixshooter? ie., far as the lack of vaccum pods, the linkages, fuel line, etc.
Thanks much
Last edited by 1ARACE; 03-31-2007 at 09:05 PM.
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Sorry, but not sure who you are referring to, but the pic above, it seems you can use stock air cleaner with it...is that right? If it is rect port and the BG sixshooter for BBC, then yes, I may be interested.
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His is a small block. But you can go to this link and PM him on how it worked. I think he had to modify the base of the stock unit to get it to fit. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1650196
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I think the SixShooter is likely the better setup over the original as it takes advantage in all the advances in automotive technology over the years. It's designed as one system working together.
An alternative is that Holley still makes the same 2-barrel carbs new if you can find a good condition original Chevy 3X2 intake to go with it...plus you know the triangular air cleaner will work.
As expensive as that can be, I think the BG system is a better buy.
An alternative is that Holley still makes the same 2-barrel carbs new if you can find a good condition original Chevy 3X2 intake to go with it...plus you know the triangular air cleaner will work.
As expensive as that can be, I think the BG system is a better buy.
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I think the SixShooter is likely the better setup over the original as it takes advantage in all the advances in automotive technology over the years. It's designed as one system working together.
An alternative is that Holley still makes the same 2-barrel carbs new if you can find a good condition original Chevy 3X2 intake to go with it...plus you know the triangular air cleaner will work.
As expensive as that can be, I think the BG system is a better buy.
An alternative is that Holley still makes the same 2-barrel carbs new if you can find a good condition original Chevy 3X2 intake to go with it...plus you know the triangular air cleaner will work.
As expensive as that can be, I think the BG system is a better buy.
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An alternative is that Holley still makes the same 2-barrel carbs new if you can find a good condition original Chevy 3X2 intake to go with it...plus you know the triangular air cleaner will work.
As expensive as that can be, I think the BG system is a better buy.
As expensive as that can be, I think the BG system is a better buy.
The stock system with the vacumn pods would be pretty tricky to setup with a hot cam and better flowing heads. Call BG and see what they will do.
Thanks for the replies
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Lets sum up a few of the latest issues.
BG.....Advanced technology with mechanical progressive linkage on a tri power?
Yep, thats only 50+ years old.
Vacuum pods wont work with 10.5 compression and high lift cam?
As I noted in a previous post, I used them on a REAL L88 and it works just fine with out a vacuum can advance system.
What I have always wanted to use was a '67' 435 tall intake on my LS7 Camaro and like a fool let a few slip through my fingers. But, I would trade a 68 unit for a 67 as I have 3 low manifolds.
Which is better Factory or BG?
I`m personally not sure, probably 4 more idle circuts to contend with a BG and maybe heighth under a hood may limit a fit without a scoop, but it`s brand new and thats a huge plus. I know I would like to try one.
BG.....Advanced technology with mechanical progressive linkage on a tri power?
Yep, thats only 50+ years old.
Vacuum pods wont work with 10.5 compression and high lift cam?
As I noted in a previous post, I used them on a REAL L88 and it works just fine with out a vacuum can advance system.
What I have always wanted to use was a '67' 435 tall intake on my LS7 Camaro and like a fool let a few slip through my fingers. But, I would trade a 68 unit for a 67 as I have 3 low manifolds.
Which is better Factory or BG?
I`m personally not sure, probably 4 more idle circuts to contend with a BG and maybe heighth under a hood may limit a fit without a scoop, but it`s brand new and thats a huge plus. I know I would like to try one.
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Lets sum up a few of the latest issues.
BG.....Advanced technology with mechanical progressive linkage on a tri power?
Yep, thats only 50+ years old.
Vacuum pods wont work with 10.5 compression and high lift cam?
As I noted in a previous post, I used them on a REAL L88 and it works just fine with out a vacuum can advance system.
BG.....Advanced technology with mechanical progressive linkage on a tri power?
Yep, thats only 50+ years old.
Vacuum pods wont work with 10.5 compression and high lift cam?
As I noted in a previous post, I used them on a REAL L88 and it works just fine with out a vacuum can advance system.