Son-of-a-!#%^& Clutch not disengaging
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Another spot to look would be the flywheel. The less expensive billet flywheels are usually Ram flywheels. They require a springless disk or the springs will push against the center of the flywheel. Result: chutch won't disengage. Solution: change to springless disk or change to standard configuration flywheel.
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Here is a listing on the Ram Billet steel flywheel:
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s..._flywheels.htm
Notice on the ad the red note at the bottom. A lot of the resellers of these (Jegs, Summit) don't let you know that they don't work with the standard disks. I think it is a bunch of that they will sell you this and not specify that in their advertising. They are advertised as a bolt in replacement for a cast flywheel. It requires having to drop the whole trans, clutch assembly and go buy a new flywheel, then reassemble.. I wouldn't recommend the spingless discs for a street car.
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s..._flywheels.htm
Notice on the ad the red note at the bottom. A lot of the resellers of these (Jegs, Summit) don't let you know that they don't work with the standard disks. I think it is a bunch of that they will sell you this and not specify that in their advertising. They are advertised as a bolt in replacement for a cast flywheel. It requires having to drop the whole trans, clutch assembly and go buy a new flywheel, then reassemble.. I wouldn't recommend the spingless discs for a street car.
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This is a Bubba way,but you can take the bottom z bar linkage to the fork rod,and lengthen it some.Reenforce it,cause there is ALOT of pressure on it.This will give you sopme length.I would back off the top adjustment to about half way,then lengthen the bottom to a distance where there is pressure just starting on the fork,reenforce,then you have some room for adjustment up top.It's a Bubba way,but it will work,and you don't have to pull the trans back out.
As long as it's not the problem like Mako was speaking on.I have replaced clutch setups before where everythinbg was IDENTICAL...just new,and have had this problem.I pulled the trans,checked everything again to double check,put all back together,and same problem,so I invited Bubba over for supper.
As long as it's not the problem like Mako was speaking on.I have replaced clutch setups before where everythinbg was IDENTICAL...just new,and have had this problem.I pulled the trans,checked everything again to double check,put all back together,and same problem,so I invited Bubba over for supper.
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Here is a listing on the Ram Billet steel flywheel:
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s..._flywheels.htm
Notice on the ad the red note at the bottom. A lot of the resellers of these (Jegs, Summit) don't let you know that they don't work with the standard disks. I think it is a bunch of that they will sell you this and not specify that in their advertising. They are advertised as a bolt in replacement for a cast flywheel. It requires having to drop the whole trans, clutch assembly and go buy a new flywheel, then reassemble.. I wouldn't recommend the spingless discs for a street car.
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s..._flywheels.htm
Notice on the ad the red note at the bottom. A lot of the resellers of these (Jegs, Summit) don't let you know that they don't work with the standard disks. I think it is a bunch of that they will sell you this and not specify that in their advertising. They are advertised as a bolt in replacement for a cast flywheel. It requires having to drop the whole trans, clutch assembly and go buy a new flywheel, then reassemble.. I wouldn't recommend the spingless discs for a street car.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...1&autoview=sku
I guess I WILL be calling summit and raising hell. Lucky you came along and said something or I would be messing around for ever. Although I am rather disappointed. What clutch should I go with?
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I guess I will have to go with the centerforce which says on it that is works with clutches built to OEM specs. Time to call summit and get a no cost exchange.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...0&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...0&autoview=sku
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SOB's won't give me anything off the flywheel I have to exchange it and pay another 70 damn bucks. But he said it would work so it better. To bad it is going to be another couple weeks before I get it back together.
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Well, I finally got it all back together. The good news is the clutch disengages a little when the linkages are maxed. The bad news is, it drags a little. I even threw in the longer pivot ball I got before I put it together. I am not sure what to do. I was going to try drilling some new holes in the z-bar but it appears to be made of some material that brand new drill bits barley leave a mark on.
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Well, I finally got it all back together. The good news is the clutch disengages a little when the linkages are maxed. The bad news is, it drags a little. I even threw in the longer pivot ball I got before I put it together. I am not sure what to do. I was going to try drilling some new holes in the z-bar but it appears to be made of some material that brand new drill bits barley leave a mark on.
If you start cobbling can you lengthen the lower rod.
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How shall I lengthen that? The problem is, with the way it is adjusted the throwout is rubbing on the pressure plate. Which we can have.
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Lets see you have no play in the clutch pedal, throwout bearing is up against diaphram, you push it down bareley realeases the clutch, maxed out adjustment, even lenghtened the pivot ball. let me see is there more than one way to put the throwout bearing on the clutch fork. did you happen to take pictures of the pressure plate.
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Lets see you have no play in the clutch pedal, throwout bearing is up against diaphram, you push it down bareley realeases the clutch, maxed out adjustment, even lenghtened the pivot ball. let me see is there more than one way to put the throwout bearing on the clutch fork. did you happen to take pictures of the pressure plate.
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You could eliminate one issue by figuring out what plate they sent you. There is flat cone and bent cone pressure plates. The bent cone uses the short bearing. The flat cone uses the long bearing. The difference in plates are detected with out them being installed.