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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:54 PM
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This is one a 68, with the cap removed and the rotor off. How much play should there be in the top shaft. I can move mine a good 1/2" in a clockwise or counter clockwise direction. Scary loose in my option. I changed out the springs today and the car still breaks up at 2500 rpms. Installed the Holley tonight will see if that helps tomorrow.

Also, The vette will not run with the distibutor lined up with #1 and the plug wires correctly installed. I had to back them up counter clockwise one post to make it run. Starts right up and idles.
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How much distributor gear play do you have??? I had timing problems and an expert at a high performance shop recognized the problem during a dyno run. When the distributor gear bounces, the timing swings depending on the amount of play. The distributor I HAD (past tense) at the time had 3/16" of play when is should have a few thousanths. I bought a new distributor off eBay and shimmed it as recommended by HiTech. BINGO!! Problem solved.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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1/2" play sounds excessive.

If you bring the timing mark around to top dead center on the compression stroke, the rotor should be near #1 on the cap. The distributor may have been installed 1 tooth off.
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Anyone have an assembly diagram of the how a distributor is put together?
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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When you rotate the shaft for this 1/2" play are you grabbing the plate that the weights are mounted on? or the very center little shaft that has the 2 posts on it that the springs attach to?
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Originally Posted by Budman68
This is one a 68, with the cap removed and the rotor off. How much play should there be in the top shaft. I can move mine a good 1/2" in a clockwise or counter clockwise direction. Scary loose in my option. I changed out the springs today and the car still breaks up at 2500 rpms. Installed the Holley tonight will see if that helps tomorrow.

Also, The vette will not run with the distibutor lined up with #1 and the plug wires correctly installed. I had to back them up counter clockwise one post to make it run. Starts right up and idles.
The "play" is the amount of movement allowed as the plates/weights advance the rotor and should be there. It could be OK. What can cause excessive movement is if the advance slot or bushing are not right. You need to make sure the bushing is in place for the advance slot - it's on the underside of where the rotor is attached. Unless someone deliberately altered the slot opening, it should be OK.

Having said all that, I doubt this is your problem.

From an electrical standpoint, in a points ignition, DWELL is a more likely candidate to cause what you describe.

Edit: Make sure you have 30 degrees dwell

Last edited by pws69; Jul 19, 2008 at 12:10 PM. Reason: I overlooked that you are referring to the 68!
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Budman68
Anyone have an assembly diagram of the how a distributor is put together?
Corvette America has pretty decent ones. See if this works for you

http://www.corvetteamerica.com/cf/di...ategoryid=X765
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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It should be able to move zero on the inner shaft, 10* at the rotor.
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http://www.corvetteamerica.com/cf/di...ategoryid=X765


Used this one for the 68. Checking the center shaft now.
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http://www.corvetteamerica.com/cf/di...ategoryid=X765


Used this one for the 68. Checking the center shaft now.
Sorry, I pointed you to the one for the electronic version - you got the right one. Make sure your dwell is 30 degrees.
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Looks like center shaft has 1/8" play. Here is a video after adding the Holley.
http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=MVI_0583.flv
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Originally Posted by pws69
Sorry, I pointed you to the one for the electronic version - you got the right one. Make sure your dwell is 30 degrees.
It was converted to Petronix when I got it. I now leaning toward a mis-aligned timing gear or a slipped balancer.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Also the Holley sounds a lot stronger compared to the Edelbrock. Even with the miss the motor has a crisp throttle response.
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Sounds like you have plug wires crossed and I think I can almost see it in video.
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Going out to check again.
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Sounds like you have plug wires crossed and I think I can almost see it in video.
You were right 5 and 6 were swapped, but no help still breaks up.
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Originally Posted by Budman68
Looks like center shaft has 1/8" play. Here is a video after adding the Holley.
http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=MVI_0583.flv
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You were right 5 and 6 were swapped, but no help still breaks up.
Somethings not right 5 and 6 are on opposite sides of the engine.I dont think those 2 were switched.In the above video the wires are going to the correct SIDE of the engine.I thought maybe you had some wrong on the passenger side bank.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Will look again. Maybe the AIM diagram is wrong.
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make sure you have the #5 and #7 wires separated from each other as much as possible, including in the wire holders. These cylinders fire consecutively and since they are adjoining cylinders you can get crosstalk between the wires from the voltage causing them to misfire.

This image is really from a C2 but it should be the same for your '68. See how the #5 and #7 wires are at opposite ends of the wire holders? This is the reason why

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Originally Posted by Budman68
It was converted to Petronix when I got it. I now leaning toward a mis-aligned timing gear or a slipped balancer.
I see! Well, I have to give the lecture! Barry gave it to me, and I stubbornly chose to ignore it.

Sometime, somewhere, the Pertronix WILL let you down and strand you. Hopefully, you will be close to home. It will give you no warning - it will just die. I had one for 2-3 years, and loved it - ran great until 2 weekends ago. Was over visiting my grandson and my son went to move the vette. Turned over, fired, died. I came out and tried - cough, bang, flames out the carb. Dug out the points and condenser that I always kept with me (I wasn't THAT secure with the Pertronix), put them in, timed it with a continuity buzzer and it once again purred!

I have just completed a complete distributor rebuild and installed new points, condenser, etc. The car runs as good as if not better than it ever has.

I am going to stick with what I have been used to for about 45 years now - it's what these cars love. I suggest you consider the same BEFORE you get stranded.
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